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blackdog posted 11-02-2000 09:42 AM ET (US)   Profile for blackdog   Send Email to blackdog  
Just received my new Mills Mooring cover, now I need to install it. Any tricks anyone has learned? I know to ream the wholes with a Phillips head after drilling.
triblet posted 11-02-2000 09:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Better than a Phillips head would be a real
countersink which you can get in any decent
HW store.

Drill the holes a bit small (30%), then drill
to final size. This will avoid chipping.

If you want to make things line up perfectly,
there's gizmo called a Vix bit that let you
drill the second hole perfectly aligned with
the hardware. You'll need to go to a lumber
yard that specializes in hardwoods and
cabinet making stuff to find one though.
They won't be in your average HW store.

Put some 101 in the holes and on the screws
to seal them.

Chuck Tribolet

blackdog posted 11-02-2000 10:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
Thanks Chuck. Whats 101?
hauptjm posted 11-03-2000 09:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
3M 101 sealer. Good Stuff. If you're installing anything that may have some stress placed on the area being sealed, and you're comfortable that it will be a fairly permanent installation, use 3M 5200. 5200 is an adhesive as well as a sealer. Case in point: I had a buddy with a '72 16-17ft that he bought in perfect condition with one exception; no seating. None. He took a new 92 quart igloo, mounted it to the deck using nothing but 5200(to avoid holes in deck) and had a custom cushion made like Whaler's snap to the top of the igloo. The height with the cushion actually was perfect for steering. Of course he drove his Whaler 99% of time standing (the way you're supposed to). Seriously, it worked very well. He sold the boat 7 years later, igloo still attached. There's an old sailors tale that Duct Tape holds their world together, now we need to include 5200.
triblet posted 11-03-2000 10:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
There's a good guide to this sort of stuff
at:
http://tux.cs.brown.edu/people/jfh/boats/goo.html
In short: 101, which stays a bit soft, for
anything you might want to undo later. 5200,
which is REAL permanent, for anything you
will NEVER EVER want to undo. 4200 isn't
quite as permanent as 5200.

Chuck Tribolet

blackdog posted 11-10-2000 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
OK,
Finally unpacked the cover and it fits great. I also ordered a Console cover and Pilot seat cover. I had a question on the Console cover that --
I thought I would throw out here before calling Mills. The Console cover only extends half way down the console. Does that sound right?
Blackdog
hauptjm posted 11-10-2000 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
It may depend on the console. I have a console cover for the standard console on an Outrage 18 from 1985. Mine comes all the way down to the deck on the stern, port and starboard sides of the console. The fore section drops to about 3 inches shy of the deck behind the igloo cooler seat. All sides are grommeted (sic) so as to give you the ability to attach the cover for trailering. Personally, I have never done this because of the fear of loosing it on the highway.
blackdog posted 11-10-2000 01:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
Thanks for the info,
I like the quality of Mills but you are not sure what you are getting until the box arrives. For the most part there are no pictures or brochures so you need to be very clear on what you want. I may need to send my cover back to add material but if that costs too much I may have to live with it.

Blackdog

jcswpa posted 10-04-2004 08:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for jcswpa  Send Email to jcswpa     
I found that "vix bit" tip above crucial in achieving a perfect job in installing a Mills mooring cover. Use bungee cords to stretch the canvas as you work from bow to stern. Drill the pilot hole for the first one, install the clip, and then use the vix bit to drill the second hole easily and exactly where it should go. And don’t forget the sealer in each hole. Job came out A+, thanks to forum tips. Thanks folks!
- Jeff

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