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jimh posted 11-15-2000 02:50 PM ET (US)
Has anyone see (in person) the new IMPACT model of Whaler?
They look like a cross between a Whaler, an RIB and a Jet Ski.
Here is the company website info:
http://www.whaler.com/2000Product/Line.asp?lid=14
What does one of these cost?
--jimh
Whaletosh posted 11-15-2000 03:11 PM ET (US)
I haven't seen one. But my dealer told me they would be more than the 13 Sport. He only had preliminary info from Whaler, but he had the impression that the target market was for an upscale yacht tender.
lhg posted 11-15-2000 03:28 PM ET (US)
Thanks, but no thanks. Looks like a little amusement park bumper boat to me with that round transom ala Sea Ray's jet boat Searayder. It will be interesting to see if the Marine Architects buy this for their yacht customers. They seem to have abandoned the classic 13's and 15's, and switched to the various RIB's. The replacement Dauntless 13's & 15's never made it in this category.
Maybe this one will.
dfmcintyre posted 11-15-2000 04:35 PM ET (US)
Larry -
Actually, after looking at it for a while and thinking about it's use, it kinda grew on me. Be interesting to see up close and personal.
I've got some friends who captain, and maintain...uh, rather large (80+) vessels. A few problems have cropped up with either standard whalers, inflatables or jet skis. A good portion of the people who charter big boats, or just own them or are guests of the owners, and haven't a CLUE about running the small things, and prange them into the hull all to often (think about the first time you tried controlling a jet ski or an inflatable in a windy condition....and _we_ pride ourselves with being capable boaters).
To a non or seldom boater, an outboard is easier to figure out slow speed handling then a jet ski is. Same with working an inflatable, especially with a tiller.
Now if they'd just make 'em in tan...
Don
triblet posted 11-16-2000 10:28 AM ET (US)
Well, the Impact is an option on big Sea
Rays. A buddy has a 40something foot Sea
Ray coming next month. He didn't opt for
the Impact.
But then Sea Ray and Whaler are somewhat
incestuous.
Also, CPD has made an Impact model for some
time. They are popular as tow boats and
Yacht Club tenders. I've seen a couple.
But the CPD version has much bigger pads if
I remember correctly.
Chuck Tribolet
Chuck Tribolet
Barry posted 11-17-2000 05:05 PM ET (US)
I found this site while surfing the net looking for additional info on Impacts. This is the company that makes the molded foam fender system for the 21'. Nice picture of the boat. http://www.gilmancorp.com/html/sponsons.html
hughmcmillan posted 07-23-2001 12:54 PM ET (US)

I just discovered that the Impact is made by JYSailboats (www.jysailboats.com) of their ACP (Advanced Composit Process).
I have a JY-15 sailboat which they make and it is a wonderful boat designed by Rod Johnston of J-Boat fame.
-Hugh McMillan
blackdog posted 07-23-2001 01:12 PM ET (US)
Jim,
Funny you should ask. My Neighbor just bought a 12 Impact as a tender for their 55’ California. Came with a 60hp 4 stroke I think ( merc). I haven’t seen it yet but I was just talking to him last night. Claims it is very fast and they use it as a tender. The impact is very heavy as it bent the davit on their boat when they tried to load it. I think the price was over $18000 if I recall!
Blackdog
Bigshot posted 07-23-2001 01:17 PM ET (US)
Saw one at the Ft. Lauderdale show. Small and expensive. Seemed ok for a dingy but stupid for anything else.
bigz posted 07-23-2001 01:25 PM ET (US)
Different strokes for different folks as that saying goes, oh lord yes yet another cliche from the big z .
Make a fine little sailing instructors platform while herding the kids I think, --- lots of IMPACT --- there ---
Bigshot posted 07-23-2001 03:23 PM ET (US)
That's a dingy job alright. We use a Carolina Skiff at our club. I hope my club is more frugal with their money than spending $$$ on a 12' boat. The cushion is high on this allowing it to only protect itself from a bigger vessel. ie: it would do absolutely nothing for herding sunfish sailboats or even J-15's.
flwhaler posted 07-23-2001 10:18 PM ET (US)
Impact runs good backs down well and is very stable at alow speeds. The collar system is very interesting it has very little air pressure. It makes a great tender. Not a bay boat. Kinda wet at high speed. I wouldn't buy one but its kool fot the guy that has everything...Its kinda a RIB that won't sink!
michael
lhg posted 07-23-2001 10:25 PM ET (US)
Saw one recently - looks like a big bar of Ivory Soap with a center console!
Bigshot posted 07-24-2001 09:55 AM ET (US)
Very good description.
hughmcmillan posted 07-25-2001 08:15 AM ET (US)
My comment on the Impact was on the material it is made from by very innovative builder in Connecticut.
The boat is not fiberglass but a polymer sheet made by BASF which is heated in a broiler-like unit and vacuum molded. I have seen a JY-15 (15' sailboat) made this way and there are no fumes, unlike fiberglass construction. The operator didn't wear a mask of any kind!
The resulting hull is several (I've read 5) times stronger than fiberglass so I am glad to see Whaler using the process even if it is a boat of limited appeal to many of us not endowed with a yacht of a size that requires a tender!
-Hugh
Bigshot posted 07-25-2001 01:05 PM ET (US)
So you are saying the boat is like a Logic?
Loewer posted 07-25-2001 02:09 PM ET (US)
The ACP hull built by JY Sailboats is not like the Logic boats. It consists of a sandwich of hard, smooth ABS on the outside, a foam middle, and a fiberglass inner layer.
At least that's how they built the sailboats. Very strong, heavy, and requires different repair techniques than frp.
Jeff Loewer

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Author	Topic: Whaler IMPACT model
jimh	posted 11-15-2000 02:50 PM ET (US) Has anyone see (in person) the new IMPACT model of Whaler? They look like a cross between a Whaler, an RIB and a Jet Ski. Here is the company website info: http://www.whaler.com/2000Product/Line.asp?lid=14 What does one of these cost? --jimh
Whaletosh	posted 11-15-2000 03:11 PM ET (US) I haven't seen one. But my dealer told me they would be more than the 13 Sport. He only had preliminary info from Whaler, but he had the impression that the target market was for an upscale yacht tender.
lhg	posted 11-15-2000 03:28 PM ET (US) Thanks, but no thanks. Looks like a little amusement park bumper boat to me with that round transom ala Sea Ray's jet boat Searayder. It will be interesting to see if the Marine Architects buy this for their yacht customers. They seem to have abandoned the classic 13's and 15's, and switched to the various RIB's. The replacement Dauntless 13's & 15's never made it in this category. Maybe this one will.
dfmcintyre	posted 11-15-2000 04:35 PM ET (US) Larry - Actually, after looking at it for a while and thinking about it's use, it kinda grew on me. Be interesting to see up close and personal. I've got some friends who captain, and maintain...uh, rather large (80+) vessels. A few problems have cropped up with either standard whalers, inflatables or jet skis. A good portion of the people who charter big boats, or just own them or are guests of the owners, and haven't a CLUE about running the small things, and prange them into the hull all to often (think about the first time you tried controlling a jet ski or an inflatable in a windy condition....and _we_ pride ourselves with being capable boaters). To a non or seldom boater, an outboard is easier to figure out slow speed handling then a jet ski is. Same with working an inflatable, especially with a tiller. Now if they'd just make 'em in tan... Don
triblet	posted 11-16-2000 10:28 AM ET (US) Well, the Impact is an option on big Sea Rays. A buddy has a 40something foot Sea Ray coming next month. He didn't opt for the Impact. But then Sea Ray and Whaler are somewhat incestuous. Also, CPD has made an Impact model for some time. They are popular as tow boats and Yacht Club tenders. I've seen a couple. But the CPD version has much bigger pads if I remember correctly. Chuck Tribolet Chuck Tribolet
Barry	posted 11-17-2000 05:05 PM ET (US) I found this site while surfing the net looking for additional info on Impacts. This is the company that makes the molded foam fender system for the 21'. Nice picture of the boat. http://www.gilmancorp.com/html/sponsons.html
hughmcmillan	posted 07-23-2001 12:54 PM ET (US) I just discovered that the Impact is made by JYSailboats (www.jysailboats.com) of their ACP (Advanced Composit Process). I have a JY-15 sailboat which they make and it is a wonderful boat designed by Rod Johnston of J-Boat fame. -Hugh McMillan
blackdog	posted 07-23-2001 01:12 PM ET (US) Jim, Funny you should ask. My Neighbor just bought a 12 Impact as a tender for their 55’ California. Came with a 60hp 4 stroke I think ( merc). I haven’t seen it yet but I was just talking to him last night. Claims it is very fast and they use it as a tender. The impact is very heavy as it bent the davit on their boat when they tried to load it. I think the price was over $18000 if I recall! Blackdog
Bigshot	posted 07-23-2001 01:17 PM ET (US) Saw one at the Ft. Lauderdale show. Small and expensive. Seemed ok for a dingy but stupid for anything else.
bigz	posted 07-23-2001 01:25 PM ET (US) Different strokes for different folks as that saying goes, oh lord yes yet another cliche from the big z . Make a fine little sailing instructors platform while herding the kids I think, --- lots of IMPACT --- there ---
Bigshot	posted 07-23-2001 03:23 PM ET (US) That's a dingy job alright. We use a Carolina Skiff at our club. I hope my club is more frugal with their money than spending $$$ on a 12' boat. The cushion is high on this allowing it to only protect itself from a bigger vessel. ie: it would do absolutely nothing for herding sunfish sailboats or even J-15's.
flwhaler	posted 07-23-2001 10:18 PM ET (US) Impact runs good backs down well and is very stable at alow speeds. The collar system is very interesting it has very little air pressure. It makes a great tender. Not a bay boat. Kinda wet at high speed. I wouldn't buy one but its kool fot the guy that has everything...Its kinda a RIB that won't sink! michael
lhg	posted 07-23-2001 10:25 PM ET (US) Saw one recently - looks like a big bar of Ivory Soap with a center console!
Bigshot	posted 07-24-2001 09:55 AM ET (US) Very good description.
hughmcmillan	posted 07-25-2001 08:15 AM ET (US) My comment on the Impact was on the material it is made from by very innovative builder in Connecticut. The boat is not fiberglass but a polymer sheet made by BASF which is heated in a broiler-like unit and vacuum molded. I have seen a JY-15 (15' sailboat) made this way and there are no fumes, unlike fiberglass construction. The operator didn't wear a mask of any kind! The resulting hull is several (I've read 5) times stronger than fiberglass so I am glad to see Whaler using the process even if it is a boat of limited appeal to many of us not endowed with a yacht of a size that requires a tender! -Hugh
Bigshot	posted 07-25-2001 01:05 PM ET (US) So you are saying the boat is like a Logic?
Loewer	posted 07-25-2001 02:09 PM ET (US) The ACP hull built by JY Sailboats is not like the Logic boats. It consists of a sandwich of hard, smooth ABS on the outside, a foam middle, and a fiberglass inner layer. At least that's how they built the sailboats. Very strong, heavy, and requires different repair techniques than frp. Jeff Loewer