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txboater posted 02-05-2001 09:22 AM ET (US)   Profile for txboater   Send Email to txboater  
How far out (offshore) do ya'll go with a 13' sport? I live in TX, and would like to go offshore from corpus christi, but safely. Thanks.
bigz posted 02-05-2001 09:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Whatever your common sense dictates!

It's up to you and you alone where and what you can do --- each boater has individual circumstances ---

Just because a Whaler is "unsinkable" doesn't mean the boater is yeah know ----


Mako posted 02-05-2001 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mako  Send Email to Mako     
Earlier this week is was 1-2' slow rollers and I'm sure I could have made it to Catalina Island (26 miles). However, if you want to go offshore regularly, I would suggest something with a little more 'vee', like an outrage (Whaler's offshore model). Or a dauntless, at the very least. IMHO, the ride of the cathedral hull is pretty painful, even in a 17-footer. The boats are perfectly seaworthy; the crew is the limiting factor.
Clark Roberts posted 02-06-2001 08:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
The three most important aspects of boating offshore (once you have a suitable boat) are weather, weather and weather! When I got my first motorcycle (way back in 1952) my uncle told me that I must look down the road as far as possible, not at the road directly in front of the bike! He said that it's too late to do anything about what's right in front of the front tire but plenty of time to plan for what's way up ahead! Best motorcycling advice and I never forgot it.. I use that principle when driving my truck and my boat... As to weather, same thing applies... look down the road, at the best and longest ranged forcast possible.. it may be beautiful and calm at present but a killer weather system may be lurking! We want you around for more posts!!!! happy Whalin'.. Clark... The Old Man and the Sea
lhg posted 02-06-2001 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Regarding safe boating offshore in big water, for years I always try to plan my offshore fishing location and cruising so that the way back to port, or to the next destination, is with the forecast wind and waves mostly behind me. This concept has served me well.
Don't be afraid to let the wave direction determine where you'll fish or boat offshore.
Keep plans flexible.
jimh posted 02-07-2001 01:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
In the sailing world, the British used to say "Gentlemen only sail downwind."

This reminds me of a story about a guy sailing up in Alaska with an old sailboat that had no engine. He comes to the mouth of this big inlet what opens 50 miles to the north, and there is a nice southerly wind blowing. Worried about sailing way up this inlet and getting stuck, he asks a local non-sailing type what the prevailing wind direction is around here.

"North," the guy replies.

Figuring this is a great chance to sail up the inlet on this southerly breeze, the old sailor heads north and sails 50 miles
inland. The breeze blows out of the south for a week, and it takes him seven days to get back to the mouth of the inlet, tacking all the way against the headwinds.

Finally he makes port at the inlet, very tired, and looks up that local he asked about the wind earlier.

"Hey, says the sailor, "I though you said the prevailing breeze here was northerly?"

"Yup," says the local, "...blowing north right now."

--jimh

Ed Stone posted 02-13-2001 10:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
I made my longest trip this past weekend.
My destination was the Elbow.According to
the chart it was 71 miles from the pass
that I fish out of.However as I passed under
the bridge the gps said 86 miles.There was a
cold front heading south into fla. but it
stalled north of us near the panhandle.
The area I was going to fish was a part
middlegrounds.(mountain range in the
gulf of mexico)I suspected the winds to kick
up and along with that the seas.At 4200
rpms I was running around 35 mph.The gas
was topped off at 166 gals.The waves couldn't
have been more than one foot.I let someone
else operate the boat as I tied some leaders.
Along about 20 miles I took over operating
the Whaler.I scrolled through the digital
gauges and I checked the sync. on rpms
and trim.I also fiddled with the trim tabs.
At that time I found myself second guessing
the fuel.I did bring a xtra 5 gal. can.
But when you pour that in a 160 gal. tank
that don't amount to much.At 40 miles the
gauge was boucning between 100 and 120 gal.
One thing I did know we had 40 miles to go
and it looked like we had already used 40
gals. of gas.I would be crazy to use half the
gas expecting to make it back.Maybe I was
over cautious but I chose a spot at 65 miles.
At 149ft. the water was dark blue.With my
new anchor,10ft.chain,and 300ft.of 1/2"
rope we had no problem hooking up on the
bottom.
We caught alot of red grouper.Just not the
right size.We ended up with 8 keepers.
Not the big fish I expected from that deep
of water.Still a good day.
At about 2pm we started to head back.
AS soon as I fill the boat up I'm going to
figure my mpg.We made it back to the ramp
just before 4pm.I remembered my better half
saying "why do you have to go out so far"
as I looked at those fish sandwiches swiming
in the fish box.
When I went to get the truck and trailer I
found out why she said "why do you have to go
out so far".There was 3 notes on my truck
and the last one said I was a new Daddy of
a 6lb.baby girl!(she came 5 weeks early)
Ed Stone
bigz posted 02-14-2001 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Hey Ed again congratulations on the new baby girl --- Is this is your first Daddy Ed?

Tom

Ed Stone posted 02-14-2001 09:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
Tom,
Are new baby girl has a big sister that is 5.
Our oldest has been on three out of the 4
Whalers we have owned.Kyndall our youngest
will be in the Hospital for a little while.
She is doing real well though,just a little
early.
Thanks,Ed Stone
jimh posted 02-15-2001 12:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Ed,

Great story, nicely told.

And congratulations, Dad!

--jimh

hauptjm posted 02-15-2001 11:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
Congratulations, Ed. I know how proud you must feel. The happiest days I have ever spent on the water, is when my son is with me. He's been coming on the boat since he was 1 month old. I would put him in his car seat, strap it down on deck, and go for a little cruise. He's now 1 1/2 and can't wait to hit the water again this year. Sometime back in the forum there was mentioned that a lot of the early ads for Whaler had kids prominently placed in them. That's when the company was run by the right people. There is no greater sight than a young boy or girl enjoying the water with they're Dad, Mom, Uncle, whatever. Great story, and congratulations again.
hauptjm posted 02-15-2001 11:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
their not they're. Forgot to edit.
andygere posted 02-15-2001 04:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Congratulations, Ed!

I have a funny story about offshoring in a 13. Years ago I worked with a guy who ran an old 13 with a 50 hp Merc in Orleans on Cape Cod. He had the boat set up with a pair of 6 gallon tanks, and he'd go out with both tanks full, and turn around when the first one was empty. Amazingly, he only got stuck once, and believe me, this guy did not take tides, seas and wind into consideration. The funny (or not so funny) part is that the time he didn't make it, the motor quit just after running through the surf zone at Nauset Inlet. If it quit a few hundred yards sooner, he would have been in a world of hate. As it turned out, he only had to flag someone down and get towed a short distance to his mooring inside the bay. By the way, the 2 gas tanks were ALL he carried in the boat except for some fishing gear. He didn't even have an anchor. I'll tell you how I found that out in another story....

Bill Davis posted 02-17-2001 10:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bill Davis  Send Email to Bill Davis     
Thanks to Ed and Andy for the stories! I am a new boat owner, a 13, and am so into outfitting it and am so safety oriented that these are a hoot. I can just see that guy with the 2 tanks! PLEASE tell us the no-anchor story!

bill who is laughing as he types.

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