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|Author||Topic: 24' outrage|
posted 04-12-2001 06:14 PM ET (US)
I have read that the 26'outrage was quite bit of an improvement on a 24' outrage. I have a 20' outrage (1978) and a 22' revenge (24' overall with whaler drive) (1989) and am selling both and am looking for a larger CC upgrade. I run 10 miles out off the DE coast and want to be able to run other trips in the 20-40 mile range. Is the 24' outrage (say 1994 ish) a good replacement? Any details about the 24' outrage would be great!!
posted 04-12-2001 06:24 PM ET (US)
Oh, one more thing (or 2)... Why did they stop making the 24' Outrage? Do they use its form on another model now?
posted 04-12-2001 06:43 PM ET (US)
too many questions yet?
maybe one more? (please :)
how different is the 24' outrage from the 24' justice?
posted 04-12-2001 10:44 PM ET (US)
I think the 24 Outrage was a nice boat, and I like it's lines much better than the newer 26. It's much lighter, more efficient, with more classic boat lines. Same boat as the 24 Justice. It looks bigger than a 25 Outrage.
It began life in 1991 as a 23 Walkaround, one of Peter VanLancker's first re-designs of the larger Whalers. When the Walkarounds didn't sell well, they converted it to an Outrage in 1994, and dropped the 25 Outrage, which by then was far to costly too build for Reebock's rapidly increasing loss picture.
I doesn't have as much interior space as the 25 (it's about 10" shorter), but rides well into a head sea. But not as stable laterally at all as the 25, and probably if all overall performance features were considered, is still out-performed by the 25 for most boating conditions. I've seen a few Coast Guard versions of the boat, and they are nice. A full transom, Whaler Drive model was never offered, probably in the interest of keeping the cost down during these dark days at Whaler.
Don't have the slightest idea why the Brunswick/Sea Ray folks dropped it. But I think they wanted every boat in the line to be their own design and construction. It was not a huge seller, but nor were any of the Reebock/Meridian era boats.
I friend had one, and he did not think it was particularly well made, with a lot of problems (a 1994 model). Admittedly, he is hard on a boat! One true problem they had on these was a serious, patchy, yellowing of the white gelcoat. I think faulty material was used.
Some of us here also know of a VERY KNOWLEDGABLE Boston Whaler boater who fell out of one of these while trolling alone on Lake Erie, and died from Hypothermia (in 72 degree water) 8 miles offshore in his life jacket. Because of the high sides, he possibly lost his balance reaching over, and fell overboard, was evidently unable to climb back in the moving boat. At least that was my suspicion. His prior boat was an 18 Outrage. I mentioned this possiblity to a Whaler rep, and he was furious with me! Who knows? I do think the lower sided Whalers are better and safer for fishing & trolling activities. I don't go trolling alone anymore after hearing about this.
posted 04-13-2001 07:46 AM ET (US)
And that is why you wear a longer lanyard when trolling alone......
posted 04-13-2001 10:44 AM ET (US)
....... connected to the kill switch, also a higher freeboard means the boat is safer in rougher water, there is less of a tendency for the water to come over the gunwales, helping you not getting washed overboard, and for boats other than whaler it helps prevent swamping. Death can be caused by hypothermina when the water tempature is 90 degrees or under.
posted 04-13-2001 11:11 PM ET (US)
I like my 96 24' Outrage had it two years. Seems to be a few always on the market in the South. I find the height of the sides just right, you can still easily reach the water for light tackle catch and release. On the new 26 you can not reach the water. I had a 22' Outrage and like the fishability of the 24 much better for offshore. For river and shallow water fishing it is a toss up. Things I really do like about the boat are: Head in the console and built in swim platform with ladder (I love my fishing but enjoy any time on the boat, these features make swimming and picnicing with the family very enjoyable); large console for storage and blocking wind; fresh water and saltwater shower/washdown; large and very useable built in storage; shallow draft compaired to other boats this size; 195 gal gas tank which takes the worry out of range offshore; separte built in anchor well; easliy removed and very comfortable stern seat; built in tackle storage in the console and leaning post. I guess you get the idea I like the boat. I love the old Whalers (had 3) but unlike some on the board I think Whaler was heading toward some improvements with the 21 and 24' Outrages in terms of options, improve features, and making the boats more enjoyable to spend time on. I looked at the new 23 and 26 before I bought this on and again did not like the higher sides, reduced interior room, and transom design. If you have any other questions on the 24 let me know. Don
posted 04-16-2001 05:17 PM ET (US)
Thanks everyone for the insight. I looked at a 24' outrage today and pretty much liked what i saw. It is certainly built quite a bit different than the classics, but overall it seems ok. It did seem to have a few cracks in the gel coat and other things were a bit more worn than I had expected, but overall, it was a very clean boat. I saw no blotching in the hull, and very few dings, and certainly more little comforts, but that also meant more plastic fittings and a bit cheaper quality parts. However, I think I liked it and wouldn't be at all surorised if the 24' outrage is our next whaler.
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