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jjf posted 04-19-2001 04:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for jjf   Send Email to jjf  
Can someone tell me if there is any wood in the hull and/or transom of the newer 1995-2001 Outrage?
HappyTime posted 04-19-2001 07:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for HappyTime  Send Email to HappyTime     
Wood is still used in Whalers till today, include 2001, if I am not mistaken, You can find wood in transom as wells encapsulated wood on top of the gunwales.
jjf posted 04-19-2001 08:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for jjf  Send Email to jjf     
Is there any wood in the stringer system of the 1995-2001 Outrage?
lhg posted 04-19-2001 08:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I thought they had switched (year unknown) to synthetic "Whalerwood". Is this stuff the same as "starboard"? Who knows the details here?
Dick posted 04-19-2001 10:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
The wood diagram that came with my 99 Montauk is dated 8/22/96 and still lists plywood. So who knows what is there.

I never saw any Whalerboard when I worked at the dealership, but my guess would be that it is there name for starboard.

B Bear posted 04-19-2001 10:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
Yes there is plywood in the transom and other spots plus whalerboad on my wood location diagram for my 2001 16 Dauntless.
Bear
dhlaw posted 04-19-2001 10:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for dhlaw  Send Email to dhlaw     
There is not wood in the new whalers, they use a synthetic material called fenalic(?) that is brown in color. When drilling through the transom this material will come out looking like wood shavings, but it is not. My secretary's husband has worked at whaler for years and he actually built my outrage, and he told me the info.
Tsuriki BW posted 04-19-2001 10:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
dhlaw

When was this new material used by Whaler?. Any way to ask the factory, by your boat serial number, if this was installed in your boat?

triblet posted 04-19-2001 11:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Whaleboard is phenolic. See
http://www.richlite.com/
IIRC, it's a laminate of paper and plastic.
I THINK Formica is a phenolic laminate.
Phenolic has been around for MANY years.
I can remember making printed circuit boards
on it around 1962 for a sixth or seventh
grade science fair project. I think it goes
back to the first part of the century.

It's not anything like Starboard.

Chuck

B Bear posted 04-20-2001 01:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
It is possible that there is no wood in the construcion of the new Whalers. I have a "wood locating diagram", dated 10/06/98, that came with my owner's packet which lists "1/2' to 1 1/2 plywood" in certain locations on the hull as well as "3/8 phenolic". Ater all the manual supplement for my 2001 16 Dauntless also includes the 14 Dauntless which had been discontinued for that year.
Chuck is right we had it in our circuit breakers and electrial buses as an insulated mounting material in the ships electrial boards.
Bear
jjf posted 04-20-2001 06:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for jjf  Send Email to jjf     
Great research. Thanks for all the info.
dgp posted 04-20-2001 08:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
As I've been told by a very reputable dealer that Whaleboard went into production starting 6/96.
kingfish posted 04-20-2001 09:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I'm straining just a little here, and certainly stretching the topic more than a little, *but* I believe my "Belgium Unbreakable" pool (billiards) balls are phenolic - you can spot them and differentiate them from other materials because at the numbers, you can see into the ball a little bit - the white circle is slightly translucent.

No charge-

dauntlass 18 posted 04-20-2001 09:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for dauntlass 18  Send Email to dauntlass 18     
My 1999 21 foot Conquest owner packet has a wood locations diagram dated 03/17/97.let me quote to you what it says on left side of diagram."floor area at helm seats and gunnel area around fwd deck is comprised of balsa core.Wood or phenolic is located only in areas shown" It shows no wood in transom and only a triangle half inch piece of plywood in flat area of motor well.I am suprized to see balsa core in a Whaler.Did anyone else know they use balsa core in there boats?
triblet posted 04-20-2001 10:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
That dredges something up from way back:
Phenolic was originally invented by a guy
looking for a way to make billiard balls out
of something other than ivory. I suspect
the elephants thank him.

Chuck

HappyTime posted 04-20-2001 03:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for HappyTime  Send Email to HappyTime     
I just called my favorite Whaler dealer (owner), he confirmed to me up to today even
in new Whalers wood are still in transom, but
some other areas might have synthetic material. I hope that clarifies your questions.
Ed Stone posted 04-20-2001 11:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
I asked that question at the whaler tour
and I believe they said three layers of
plywood is used in the transom.They said
no other material has tested stronger than
wood in the transom.
Balsa wood is used in the hatches.
I think someone said the balsa was in
little square or hex shapes with the
grain turned in diffrent directions to
stop water intrusion.The hatches were
made in cold presses that clamped the
wet glass together against balsa core.
Ed Stone

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