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Whaletosh posted 05-11-2001 03:17 PM ET (US)   Profile for Whaletosh  
Larry,

Yep, I thought this one over for months. My wife can attest to this. I read this forum a lot. I read old and new magazine reviews. I looked at Whaler catalogs old and new. Checked Boat Trader Online dozens of time. Test drove a Montauk 17, a Dauntless 16, and a Dauntless 14. Even checked out Proline, Scout, and Edgewater Boats.

I pretty much come to the conclusion that Dauntless 14s were too close in price, size, performance and overall "character" to the Dauntless 16s which are selling like hot cakes. As a result of these similarities, especially the price, I believe a lot of buyers opted to get Dauntless 16s instead of 14s. My dealer, whom I trust, believes that a lot of people bought 16s because the stern seats. The buyers liked the fantasy that they were going to have lots of opportunities to take out family and friends. So Boston Whaler dropped the boat from their line because of poor sales. But, I liked the Dauntless 14 in 1999 and still do.

After looking, agonizing, talking with my wife, etc., etc. I decided I had better make the decision by carefully examining what we realistically will use our boat for, where it will be stored, how easy it is to tow, how economical it is to operate, etc.

The conclusion I came to was that I needed a small center console, with a 4-stroke motor, that would fit into my garage. I don't need to worry about offshore capabilities because for a variety of reasons I won't be doing so. I do need something that is reasonably comfortable for 2 adults, easy to handle by myself, and can be used in small lakes, large lakes, and inshore Great Lakes.

The Dauntless 14 fits the bill for me. I was very happy with it when I test drove it. My wife also liked it. I feel fortunate to have wife who like to go fishing and boating. Lots of my co-workers don't and they are really jealous. So, while the decision was mine, her approval was an important factor.

I checked the price I am paying for the Dauntless 14 with Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, and New England dealers. My dealer is giving me a new (never been titled) 2000 Boat, new 2001 Mercury 4-stroke motor, and 2000 Shorelandr trailer for less than the other dealerships want for a boat with a 2-stroke (save one ). Plus, it is less than what a couple of dealers want for a used boat.


As to resale value, both I and my wife want this to be the last boat we buy for a good long time. So unless the boat is stolen, burned up, smashed up, or some other tragedy strikes it then this is it.

So rest assured I have put a lot of effort into this decision. It wasnt easy but the effort was worth it. I truly believe I have found what I want in a boat.

Sean

Tight lines to ya!

blackdog posted 05-11-2001 04:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
Good luck Sean. I got the 16 for the seats in the back :) It will fit in a garage with folding or removable trailer tongue. As to keeping it for ever, I thought the same thing but I am now aspiring to BigZ level hopefully in a couple of years! We all think we are going to keep something forever but as soon as I bought the 16 the 18 looked real attractive to me! Two foot indes I guess. Anyway , you love the boat. Good luck with her.

Blackdog

Whaletosh posted 05-11-2001 04:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
Blackdog,

I have had bigger boats in the past. Truthfully, if had the money and time I would like to have 3 boats. A Conquest, a Dauntless 14/16, and a run around, get wet, go swimming, noisy, iritating PWC.

But the Duantless 14 is the best for my needs (versus dreams) that I can afford to buy, feed, and house.

The_Ox posted 05-11-2001 08:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for The_Ox  Send Email to The_Ox     
What size outboard did you get? What did it cost (ballpark figure), if I may be so bold to ask. Feel free to ignor the last question.

B Bear posted 05-11-2001 09:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
Congratulations Whaletosh!
I know you have put some real time into this decision, and you won't be disapointed. Enjoy your 14 Dauntless and best of all your wife.
Bear
Whaletosh posted 05-11-2001 09:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
Mr. Ox,

With a handle like that I figure you deserve to called Mr.

I am getting the boat rigged with a new 2001 60 HP 4-stroke mercury.

The whole package incuding th boat motor, Shoreland'r trailer, bow rail, coooler seat, windshield, console grab rail, bow cushion, and factory mooring/travel cover is $17,885. this includes tax, title, registration for the boat and the trailer.

Basically the boat (with all the options, motor, and trialer are $16K. This is less than everybody else I could find on the web and in magazines with exception of one dealer, Colony Marine in the Detroit area. Colony has one similar for $15.5K but with a 50 4-stroke and no mooring cover.

I know of three other new Dauntless 14s in the Great Lakes area. If anybody is interested I can give you details. These boats didn't sell well and you could dicker if you wanted. Just keep in mind that they may not be easy to sell used either.

I personnaly don't think the poor sales, and resulting short production run are an indication of a bad boat. My own opinion is that the Dauntless 16 was and is the clear winner in the Duantless line. The 18 and 22 sell reasonably well, but the 16 is hard to get it sells so well. I think the 16 canabalized sales of the 14.

So if you are in the market for a good, small center console you might be able to
get one at a bargain.

Just ask Greg (Tsuriki BW ) just how much he loves his.

whalernut posted 05-12-2001 06:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Congratulations and enjoy you`re new Whaler, you put the same thought as I did before a most important purchase. I know I held out for like 2 years before finding a `16 Currituck or `17 Sport, hard to find in S.W. PA. Regards-Jack Graner.
jimh posted 05-12-2001 08:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
There is a lot to be said in favor of smaller boats:

--they fit in your garage
--you can easily move the trailer around by hand
--you can launch and recover them by yourself

Yes, we all have stood on the shore and looked out at big open water and thought of going out there is a big, tough boat, but you can have plenty of fun boating on nice inland lakes, too.

Tsuriki BW posted 05-12-2001 09:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Not only inland lakes, I use my Dauntess 14 for salmon fishing on Puget Sound. Just use a little common sense and watch the weather.

I also have a bow mounted electric motor and use it for bass fishing in Lake Washington and Sammamish. Plus stern mounted electric to troll for trout and sockeye (when we have a season).

The Dauntless 14 is a very versitile boat for all kinds of boating/fishing.

Tsuriki

The_Ox posted 05-12-2001 09:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for The_Ox  Send Email to The_Ox     
Thanks for the info on your new boat. I too will someday join the ranks of the boating world, sooner rather then later. This form is a great source of information from actual boat owners. The best of luck with the boat and happy boating.

JSKUSN posted 05-14-2001 09:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for JSKUSN  Send Email to JSKUSN     
I too just took the Dauntless plunge. I looked at a new 16 foot Dauntless but received a healthy dose of sticker shock when quoted $23K with a 90 Horsepower Merc. Started shopping around and came across a 1994 Dauntless with a 70 HP Evinrude for $8500. Guess which one I bought? Its in great shape and weve had it out 4-5 times so far. I really enjoy it and appreciate the Classic Whaler community for its information and camaraderie.

The 15 foot fits the bill for my family; easy to tow, great fishing/water-skiing boat and a just the right size for my two teenage daughters to handle without causing me any more stress than can be normally associated with raising teenagers. All in all a great boat!

JSKUSN posted 05-14-2001 09:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for JSKUSN  Send Email to JSKUSN     
I too just took the Dauntless plunge. I looked at a new 16 foot Dauntless but received a healthy dose of sticker shock when quoted $23K with a 90 Horsepower Merc. Started shopping around and came across a 1994 Dauntless with a 70 HP Evinrude for $8500. Guess which one I bought? Its in great shape and weve had it out 4-5 times so far. I really enjoy it and appreciate the Classic Whaler community for its information and camaraderie.

The 15 foot fits the bill for my family; easy to tow, great fishing/water-skiing boat and a just the right size for my two teenage daughters to handle without causing me any more stress than can be normally associated with raising teenagers. All in all a great boat!

Tsuriki BW posted 05-14-2001 09:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
JSKUSN

A '94 15 Dauntless with a 70hp OB sounds like a great buy. Am sure you are going to enjoy. Would have liked to have another 2 feet with the 16, but like you said the sticker shock....

You got at least 1 more foot at a good deal.

Tsuriki

whalernut posted 05-14-2001 09:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Welcome to the Forum, and enjoy you`re new Dauntless `15, I know you will! Keep posting on the boat and performance and such as you use it. Regards-Jack Graner.
B Bear posted 05-14-2001 11:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
JSKUSN
Welcome aboard! And Congradulations!
I am going to have to learn about all these models someday. Is the 15 Dauntless a center console like the 14 and 16?
Anyway, very happy for you, an excellent choice.
Bear
whalernut posted 05-15-2001 05:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
B Bear, the `15 Dauntless is a center console with a slight v-hull with squared off transom! It has the newer rubrail. It could be had with side rails only or full railing. 70h.p. maximum rating. Takes the waves well, but has alot of roll due to the rounded hull unlike the older Whalers. I drove one and it would be nice for inshore fishing for up to 2 people. They seam to be holding their value for now, so a good buy is possible, but not usually a steal of a deal! Regards-Jack Graner.
Whaletosh posted 05-15-2001 08:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
The Dauntless 15 is just about the same length as the Dauntless 14. The 15 is lighter and doesn't have as much freeboard. The console is very similar to current Dauntless 16s; much bigger than the console on Dauntless 13s. Overall a Dauntless 15 will make good boat for use on inland lakes and near shore. Kinda reminds me of the Edgewater 14 CC.

The Dauntless 15 hull is still available as the Justice 15 in the commercial division.

andygere posted 05-15-2001 12:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I always thought the Dauntless 14-15 boats would make a nice replacement for the old 13. The boat is used in bays, marshes and inlets on Cape Cod, but it's always a squeeze with more than 3 people on board. Of course, I can't quite bear to part with old one....
Whaletosh posted 05-15-2001 01:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
Andy;

I think you would find the Dauntless 14 to be practical for no more than 3 adults as well. The Dauntless 16, Montauk 17, or larger mightight be a better choice.

B Bear posted 05-15-2001 10:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
Thanks guys for the explination.
Bear
Tsuriki BW posted 05-15-2001 11:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
I would agree with Whaletosh,

2 othe guys is all I will really take fishing with me. 5 is the ratng of the boat, and would be ok for just "cruzing" around, but...This is a 14' boat.

I Iove mine and it fits my needs very well, but it does, like anything else, have its limitations.

Tsuriki

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