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1996 outrage 20 -- best engine
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posted 12-10-2001 09:25 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all your good advice. The previous owner had a 150 Merc on it that I've never been comfortable with. It seemed to have a long "second gear". The bow would ride too high to see over and then drop suddenly with acceleration. Do you think this is a problem with the engine size or the hull design ?
posted 12-10-2001 09:33 PM ET (US)
Published minimum horsepower for the 20 Outrage is 130 so you're not far from the minimum with a 150. You'd be much better off with a 200 or 225. I'm not sure about the problem you describe. To the extent that there is a problem, it may be caused by poor engine height, incorrect propeller pitch and the 150 could be working hard to get and keep it on a plane.
posted 12-11-2001 07:57 AM ET (US)
Steve- My opinion. 150hp is plenty to run a 20'OR, classic or post classic. Check out various BoatTraders-the 20' boat section. Pete has several points I would check out with a fine mechanic- like prop pitch etc. Frankly, noone is running a 225 on a 20' boat- it's tooooo much unless you are competitive racing. Don't over horsepower your boat unless you have a reason-it just uses more gas and creates a safety issue. Some insurance companies won't insure or will charge you more money as you go up the horsepower range (e.g. State Farm). Good Luck David
posted 12-11-2001 09:45 AM ET (US)
Interesting point, David. When I called my State Farm agent to tell him I had replaced the 100HP (1980) 'Rude with a 70HP Suzuki, etc., he sent me a refund check for about 30% of the annual premium. This was on a '80 Montauk.
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posted 12-11-2001 10:00 AM ET (US)
I have a 1998 outrage and proudly run it with a merc 225 efi. I bought it new and it came with a 19 inch prop and it ran great, but I couldn't open it up yet. After its first tank, I opened it up and I was only getting around 5200 RPM's. The dealer exchanged the prop and gave me a 17. What a difference! The boat is crisp and responsive at any speed. Has the power and torque that you always dreamed of. (Even with a full 87 gallons of fuel)One time, I had ten people on board. (their boat was broken down) I just touched the throttle and "BAM" I was up on plane.
In addition to the big motor, Bennett hydraulic trim tabs make all the difference. No more leaning, and so easy to keep the nose down in rough seas. I feel totally safe with my package.
I generaly run the motor between 3000 and 3500 RPMs. Yes, the boat cooks, simply rocks! It is such a pleasure to drive!
And I do have it insured w/state-farm.
posted 12-11-2001 11:32 AM ET (US)
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with David on the horsepower issue. My general rule of thumb is to put as close to the maximum rated horsepower on the boat. There are several reasons for this. One is that there will be times when you regret that you don't have enough power (I've never heard of anyone ever regretting to have a reserve of power). Second, the higher hp engine will generally outlast the lower because it isn't running as fast to develop the same output up to the maximum of the lower. The insurance differential between the lower and higher output motors is very small part of the overall operating costs (it probably gets lost in the rounding). Having too little HP might actually create more of a safety issue in my opinion.
The bottom line is with the higher HP engine, the power is there if you need it but you don't have to use it.
posted 12-11-2001 03:47 PM ET (US)
Guys- You can run just about any hp you wish. My points from the 2 Steverino threads come down to the following-- 1) Don't overpower or set up inconsistent with your boating needs. For regular fishing I'd prefer twins over the biggest ass single made. Rationale in thread. 2) While you may personally feel safe with a 225hp on a 20' boat the insurance folks pay out more on boats max-ed out on hp. It's a statistical fact regardless of how you feel--you are less safe. The insurance folks tables work the same on high hp cars just as they do on max-ed out boats. 3) Yes, I run a 225hp myself on a 22' OR, yet when I repower I plan on dropping hp to 200 in order to save on insurance $$'s. Certain folks may out run me a slight bit -- but I like the upside. Over- anddddddd Out. Tight lines David
posted 12-11-2001 08:07 PM ET (US)
Thanks, again, one and all for all advice. Keep it coming. It helps tremendously to get the benefit of your experience.
posted 12-12-2001 11:11 AM ET (US)
A friend here has a 93-94 21' with Evinrude 225....it's perfect!! Live well w/50 gals. water, 120+ gal fuel, 3 guys, ice, gear, etc....dont underpower!!
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