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blavid posted 03-31-2002 08:47 PM ET (US)   Profile for blavid   Send Email to blavid  
Thanks to all who haved answered my last few posts (SeaTow Recommendations, dock lines, etc.) I finally got to have my first time out on the water! This is my very first boat as well, so I am as much of a beginner as one can get.

My girlfriend and I bought a 2002 210 Ventura with a 200HP Mercury Optimax... cruised the Intercoastal Waterway all weekend long, ventured out in the Gulf for awhile, set foot on Caladesi Island, and waved to all the car traffic trying to get on Clearwater Beach this weekend!...Whaler makes a great hull! It handled like a charm, and I had no troubles with any maneuvers. Had to practice docking a bit, though.

Anyway, I had some questions about the dual batteries. There is a small one (with no battery box) to starboard, and a larger one (in a battery box) to port. The Supplemental Owners Manual says that the starboard battery (the small one in my case) is the "house" battery and should be used for all the lighting, electronics, livewells, freshwater pumps, etc. while the engine is off. I think it is number "2" on the battery select switch. The larger battery to port I think is number "1". I am assuming that this is a starting battery. I would have thought that this larger one would be more the deep cycling battery, however, and the smaller one was the "cold cranking battery". There is no information on what type of batteries they are, they are just labeled "BatteryUSA".

Anyway, on Friday night we played on the boat at the dock and ran the courtesy lights, radio, etc. for awhile as we were checking the boat out before our first weekend trip. I had no idea what the batteries were meant for, I just put the switch to "1" and ran the lights/radio for an hour or so. When I went to start the engine the next morning on battery "1", there was not enough energy to start the engine, so I had to start it with the battery selct switch set to both batteries or battery number "2" all weekend long. I recharged both batteries all weekend long when I was running the boat.

Anyway....am I just totally confused by all this now? Please help simplify this confusing issue.

Also, one other aggravating issue is that the large storage console to starboard (under all the steering wheel and electronics console) did not turn out to be "dry storage" this weekend. All my weekend bags, towels, etc. were moderately drenched with water after running all day. I really thought that this was intended to be dry storage. Does anyone think I have some sort of problem, or is it supposed to get very wet inside this console? Remember, the batteries are stored in here, and they both got wet (plus one battery doesn't even have a baterry box!) Should I be looking for some sort of leak? It had to be dripping from above as well because the items on top were soaked, too. Please advise.

Dick posted 03-31-2002 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
You have a new boat under warranty. Go back to your dealer and have him explain how they hooked up the battery system and answer all of your questions. Not all batteries are put in boxes some are put on a battery tray with a hold down.
Make your dealer earn his money.
triblet posted 03-31-2002 11:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Batteries on a boat should have the
connections insulated. The usual way to do
this is by putting it in a box.

What are the two battery "group numbers"?
Common marine group numbers are U-1, 24, 27,
31, 4D, 8D.

Chuck

blavid posted 04-01-2002 06:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for blavid  Send Email to blavid     
I'll check for the battery group types today after work, but I looked for any identification numbers over the weekend and couldn't find any.
aubv posted 04-01-2002 07:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
blavid,

If the storage you refer to is in deck, it may have a thru hull to drain the box. The drain maybe high enough so when at rest it is dry but under way water splashes in. The front locker in the bow of our 17' OR is like this. If this is the case you need to put a plug in. This may solve your problem to some extent but water may still get in from above. Get your self a water proof bag that can be used to store dry items.

Great choice for your first boat, it maybe the only boat you ever need. Good Luck.

phatwhaler posted 04-01-2002 08:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
I would highly advise you to take a boating course. You will learn more in a few weeks than you'll figure out in a year. If interested in the CG Auxiliary course, there is a Dunedin flotilla call 727-596-9928.
Power Squadron is great too.

phatwhaler out.

jimh posted 04-04-2002 12:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Regarding water in your bilge spaces:

You do have the hull drain plug IN when you're in the water, right?

I would not expect to find enough water in the interior bilge spaces to slosh all the way up to the helm area.

Often the rod holder and drink holder have drains which are conveyed by drain hoses to the bilge sump. If you were repeatedly getting water into all the rod holders or cup holders you get some into the under-console area that way.

--jimh

caterboat posted 04-05-2002 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for caterboat  Send Email to caterboat     
I just purchased the same boat. I was a little concerned with the weight of the boat. It is very heavy for a 21'. What electronics did you install and did you flush mount them in the console?Mine is not in the water yet but we are really looking forward to enjoying this one.
caterboat posted 04-05-2002 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for caterboat  Send Email to caterboat     
blavid,

I am getting a lift for my boat. I am curious how things go with your 210. I have been told many different things but bottom line was this boat was right for me. Keep me posted.

blavid posted 04-05-2002 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for blavid  Send Email to blavid     
Caterboat,

Nice choice! I really am enjoying my boat...just got back from a late afternoon fishing for a couple of hours. Caught some throwbacks... It was pretty windy and choppy today, but it was such a dry, comfortable ride!

I installed a Garmin GPSMAP 168 with the external antenna and transom mount transducer (I flush mounted the unit in the console box, and it looks great.) The boat already had a Clarion CD/radio in the box as well (sounds awesome).

The boat is pretty heavy, but gets up on plane pretty quickly with my 200 Optimax. It really handles nicely.

Let us know when you are in the water!

blavid posted 04-05-2002 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for blavid  Send Email to blavid     
You have the ideal setup with the lift...where are you located? No complaints with the boat...it really is a great all around, versatile boat!
caterboat posted 04-06-2002 07:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for caterboat  Send Email to caterboat     
blavid,
I purchased the boat at the Baltimore show, plan on boating in the bay and off shore.
Did you question the seating? When you lift the stern bench and expand the port side seat they do not work as an L shape. I can only use one or the other. I have the dealer working on correcting this. I was told it was designed for L shape seating when expanded. I had the dealer throw in the filler cushion.
I read what you said about things getting wet in storage, any solution? Any other problems to be aware of? What other electronics do you have and where did you install them. My installer seems confused.
Thanks for the insight. You are the first one I have found who owns the ventura 210.
blavid posted 04-06-2002 08:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for blavid  Send Email to blavid     
Hey, if you can get the L-Shepaed seating to work, let me know! I can only get one or the other as well, but not both at the same time. In the supplemental manual that came with the Ventura, it showed an artist's rendition with both the foldaway transom seat AND the back to back lounge chair in the down position.

On the wet storage issue...I found a thru hull drain in the forward starboard storage (under the bow storage) that was unplugged...so I plugged it, and I think that should solve the issue. My guess was that water was seeping in from there. Hope it now is DRY storage.

I only have the Garmin GPSMAP 168 (external antennae) and the Clarion CD/radio installed in the console...both flush mounted and very clean looking.

I got the filler cushion thrown in as well...your guests will love it!

No other real complaints, but if your dealer can explain the battery switch better than mine, let me know!

blavid posted 04-06-2002 08:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for blavid  Send Email to blavid     
Hey, if you can get the L-Shepaed seating to work, let me know! I can only get one or the other as well, but not both at the same time. In the supplemental manual that came with the Ventura, it showed an artist's rendition with both the foldaway transom seat AND the back to back lounge chair in the down position.

On the wet storage issue...I found a thru hull drain in the forward starboard storage (under the bow storage) that was unplugged...so I plugged it, and I think that should solve the issue. My guess was that water was seeping in from there. Hope it now is DRY storage.

I only have the Garmin GPSMAP 168 (external antennae) and the Clarion CD/radio installed in the console...both flush mounted and very clean looking.

I got the filler cushion thrown in as well...your guests will love it!

No other real complaints, but if your dealer can explain the battery switch better than mine, let me know!

caterboat posted 04-07-2002 06:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for caterboat  Send Email to caterboat     
blavid

I was told they would take out 2" on each side of the seat or purchase me a slightly smaller seat that would work so both can be utilized a the same time for the L shape we mentioned. What do you think about that?
I want to get it in the water first and see how things work out, but it is an option.

STEPHEN posted 04-09-2002 10:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for STEPHEN  Send Email to STEPHEN     
I Don't understand how you could leave the dealers lot without having every inch of the boat gone over and explained.I make delivery on a new montauk in a month, and I have a laundry list of questions to be answered.

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