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BillD posted 04-25-2002 05:02 PM ET (US)   Profile for BillD   Send Email to BillD  
I am trying to figure out the best boat for my needs and am getting confused by the different Outrage versions. I have narrowed it down to a 17' or 18' Outrage, but not the version. I have spent a lot of time on this site and in the forums trying to figure out the different versions, and what I gather is that there is the model from the mid 80's to 1990 or later, a different model from the end of that one (1994?) until 1998, and yet a third version from 1999 - 2001 when the 17 / 18 size was discontinued. Does anyone have the exact years that the models switched over. The boats seem very different each with pros and cons. Any info on the differences between the models would also be appreciated (as would opinions).
Thanks,
Bill
CaptCornchowder posted 04-25-2002 07:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for CaptCornchowder  Send Email to CaptCornchowder     
Bill I have a 1990 19Outrage I believe this was a transition year. The boat is all glass no teak and the center console is larger. It has the full transom cut out for twins [wishlist]. I believe that was changed in early 90's. Hope this helps , cc
Matthew posted 04-26-2002 07:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Matthew  Send Email to Matthew     
Bill,
In the reference section under specifications, there is an area deals with all hulls 9'-22'. Its a great resource. Hope it helps.
Matt
Jerry Townsend posted 04-27-2002 11:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Bill - the reference section is beautiful, very valuable, is being developed and as such, it doesn't have information on the 1996-7 17' Outrage. I have a 1996 17' OR and as per the Whaler brochure:
LOA: 17'6" / BEAM: 7' / DRAFT: 12" / WEIGHT: 1700 LBS / MAX WT. CA: 1820 LBS / SWAMP: 2600 LBS / PERSONS CA: 7 / MAX HP: 150 / MIN HP: 90 / SHAFT: 25" / FUEL CAP: 56 GAL.

My interior is all glass (no wood) however the console storage door and cooler cleats are what I believe is called WhalerBoard (black with a relatively smooth textured surface). I have a 115 Johnson Ocean Runner - which is a good compromise - gets out there is good order and will idle at about 2 mph. I don't have any complaints about the boat or engine - well maybe one - as it is difficult to beach the boat and get off the bow with the front rail - but then, I was previously used to beaching and easily exiting from a 13' sport.

My boat is dry and my friends are at ease when some raunchy weather comes up - the extra free-board is nice. Some of the 'classic' enthusiasts favor the lighter hull weights of the earlier versions - but, I like the extra width and extra free-board of this version - knowing full well that it does weigh a bit more - and therefore takes a bit more gas - which is frankly a no-never-mind. ------ Jerry/Idaho

aubv posted 04-27-2002 07:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Jerry,

I own a '96 17 OR also and concur with your statements about Classic Whalers. I believe the 17 OR is a remarkable boat. Only boat I have ever been on that requires no plug to launch.

Billd,
I believe 1996 is the beginning of the V-hull Outrage III series. V-hull 17' OR III was built for two years 1996-1998 and the 18' OR III was produced for 1999-2000. Don't have cats to confirm.

You might find a local BW dealer and ask if they have any old cats for 1996-98 and 1999-2000 to look at. You will very quickly see the differences on the back page.

CaptCornchowder posted 04-27-2002 08:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for CaptCornchowder  Send Email to CaptCornchowder     
Bill-by the way the 90 Outrage was built in Ma. by the old team. cc
Ventura16 posted 04-27-2002 09:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ventura16  Send Email to Ventura16     
The 17 Outrage is in the 1999 catalog that I have. The 18 Outrage doesn't appear until the 2000 catalog.

Tom

rcross posted 04-28-2002 11:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for rcross  Send Email to rcross     
Bill. Last year I bought a 1993 Outrage 19 with an Ocean Runner 150, an upgrade from a Montauk. I'd been in several older 18's that I had been conisdering, but first ride in the newer 19 was entirely convincing. The 1990-1994 19's feel like substantially larger boats in any significant sea. And the ride in any chop is hugely smoother. While I miss the look of the teak, the all glass interior with the tilt console and built-in storages and live well make up for it in functionality and ease of maintenance. The only draw back is weight. But, a new Easy Loader dual axle trailer makes trailing a snap. I know that my opinion may ber heresy to classic fanatics, with whom I still identify in lots of ways, I'm "just knocked out with the "transitional" Outrage 19.
Whaletosh posted 04-29-2002 08:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
Bill,

There were two outrage 17s.

One was built around the early 90s. you can see pictures of it in th Cetacea section, pages 7, and 15. It was similar in size to a Montauk but had a deeper V and a built in gas tank.

The other Outrage 17 was made in the late 90s. It was a much deeper V. Pictures of it ore on traderonline. Look for an Outrage 17 made from 1996 or later. this is the one the Jerry has.


There were two Outrage 18s

One was made in the 1980s. You can see pictures of it in the Cetacea section, pages 8,16,19,24,34,40. The Outrage 19 is based on this, the one that Captain cornchowder has.

The other Outrage 18 was made in the late 90s early 2000s. Again, look in traderonline.

hope this helps.

BillD posted 04-29-2002 12:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for BillD  Send Email to BillD     
Thanks everyone for your help tracking down the differences. I has made it easier to read the ads and know which boats I am really interested in. For my purposes all the 17's are too small for my needs and I am leaning towards the 1999 - 2000 18'.

Everyone, thanks again for your assistance.

Bill

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