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David Pendleton posted 05-03-2002 04:37 PM ET (US)   Profile for David Pendleton   Send Email to David Pendleton  
Am I the only one here with an I/O? (I have a 23 Conquest.)

I'm not familiar with any other models that were available with an I/O (Newport? CPD?).

Were there any others?

Tom W Clark posted 05-03-2002 04:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
David,

Though few in numbers produced, many Boston Whaler models were available with I/O power. These include:

The original (1974-1978) 19 Outrage and Revenge (but not the original 21')

The 18' GTX

Both the 22' (a.k.a. V-22) and 25' (a.k.a. V-24) in the Outrage and Revenge configurations.

The 25' Frontier model

and I have heard of, but never seen, the original 27' with twin I/O power.

I do not know about the post classics, but obviously your's is one example.

David Pendleton posted 05-03-2002 06:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
The Frontier was what I was thinking of, not the Newport. There was a picture of a Frontier somewhere around here...

Does anyone here own any of these I/O models?

PMUCCIOLO posted 05-04-2002 12:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
David Pendleton,

Boston Whaler CPD offers a number of I/O powered boats on both classic and post classic hulls. They are listed under the Commercial Products side on the Boston Whaler factory website.

There is a 31' twin I/O powered boat listed with a brokerage. I called the brokerage, as I thought that all of the 31's were inboards. The broker confirmed that this was an I/O powered 31' Vigilant.

Paul

Bugsy Malone posted 05-04-2002 08:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bugsy Malone  Send Email to Bugsy Malone     
First a slight correction Paul, the Vigilant isn't a 31 Whaler, it is a 27. The 31 was offered with twin stern drive gas (I/Os), twin inboard gas or diesel. The beam on the 31 is 11'10" and the 27 which is the Vigilant is 10'.

The recreational 27 and the 27 Full Cabin, were offered with an inboard twin gas set up. At least in the 80's stern drives (I/Os)for these were not offered in the recreational line.

The Outrage 25 and 22 both were offered with single engine stern drive (I/O's). This included the 22 and 25 cc cuddy version and the 25 and 22 WT Revenge models. The 20 and 18 Outrage was not offered with stern drives. The 25 Revenge Walk Around was offered with a single stern drive. As mentioned the 18 GTX also offered a single stern drive option.

In the 90's the 23 Walk Around was offered with a Volvo I/O diesel.

The kicker is that Whaler particularly back in the 80's aside from their stated offerings would do custom stuff including I/Os even if in the standard model wasn't shown available.

PMUCCIOLO posted 05-04-2002 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
Bugsy Malone,

Perhaps I'm incorrect, but the broker told me that the boat is a 31 Whaler hull with the Vigilant cabin. He also said that the boat was wide--very wide--he thought twelve feet!

I'll try to dig up the photo from the listing, as this is an interesting craft. It sure looks like the old 31 hull from the bow quarter photo!

I'll check it out, if its still listed, and let you know.

Paul

Bugsy Malone posted 05-04-2002 10:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bugsy Malone  Send Email to Bugsy Malone     
Thanks Paul, I will be interested to find out exactly what the dealer meant by a 'Vigilant' cabin. The CPD I do know played around a bit offering the 31 in some custom configurations but really wasn't part of their standard product line.

The 31 was offered in a couple of cabin/helm versions but I am not aware of it offered as a Pilot House w/cuddy WA model like the Vigilant. (which is basically the 27 Offshore with a fully enclosed Pilot House vs. the Offshore with a hardtop fixed windshield helm which is enclosed with canvas/clear vinyl made until '98/'99). Might add the 27 Offshore was only offered as a standard outboard, not even with a Whalerdrive option.

If your not looking for performance the 31L which was redesigned from the original 31 of Dougherty days, is one heck of a fine boat particularly with the Cummins diesels. The original design was foamed 'down' when VanLandker(sp) team did it's version in the early 90's. The original was a dog according to a designer that I know who worked on both. The 90's models can be had for under 100k, seen as low as 80k with diesels.

OutrageMan posted 05-04-2002 10:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
Wisconsin DNR has a 31' Vigilant with Whaler Drive and twin Merc 250's on it. For a few months last summer it was parked in the yard at Mr. Outboards on hyw 41 south of Green Bay.

My father and I stopped and looked at it. Definately a 31 Vigilant; definately twin 250's on a WD.

Brian

Bugsy Malone posted 05-04-2002 01:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bugsy Malone  Send Email to Bugsy Malone     
Brian do you recall the beam of the 'Vigilant' you saw? In addition was it on a trailer or stands?

Not saying your mistaken just that the 31 dry weight at 12,600lbs and could carry over 300 gallons of fuel had to believe the outboards even 500hp worth of outboards couldn't have enough torque to move the thing above a relative crawl. Even changing the super structure to a Pilot House and cuddy wouldn't shave off to many pounds.

As I mentioned the CPD did some strange things but fitting outboards to a 31 with almost a 12' beam and a weight as mentioned! Whew what a dog and you'd need 300 gallons of fuel the way that would suck it down.

Even the new GW 330 Express is only 9600 lbs, and it is one of the few in that LOA range at 11'6" beam to use outboards. Then again she was originally designed for outboard power where the original Whaler 31 never was designed for them.

With BW you learn everyday of some little known configuration that the CPD folks conjectured up on special order.

Bugsy Malone posted 05-04-2002 01:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bugsy Malone  Send Email to Bugsy Malone     
Oops, should be conjured up! Not conjectured. Sorry
OutrageMan posted 05-04-2002 02:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
I am not sure what the beam was. I can only say that this boat was big.

Brian

PMUCCIOLO posted 05-04-2002 04:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
EUREKA!

I don't know how to put in the direct computer link, but look under "boats.com" and type in Boston Whaler 31 in the upper left hand side of the page that comes up. Scroll down about 10 or so listings. There lies one 1992 32 foot Vigilant for a mere $130,000! What a bargain! I shudder at the thought of this boat's fuel consumption!

Paul

OutrageMan posted 05-04-2002 10:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
Try this...

http://www.boats.com/listing/cache/listing_search_validate.jsp

Brian

Bugsy Malone posted 05-05-2002 08:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bugsy Malone  Send Email to Bugsy Malone     
Yep that's a Vigilant configuration built on a 31 hull.

Your right Paul with twin Mercury I/Os at just 300 hp pushing a 6 ton boat even though the gearing is similar to an inboard the fuel consumption would be insane. Only something owned by the government using tax payers $$$ could afford it! Chuckle LOL.

'92 was the last year Boston Whaler offered the 31 in the recreational line.

If you noticed in your search there are a number of 31's less than 100k available.

In fact there is an Express model which shows sold for $77,000 which I had corresponded with the broker in NJ on. Decided after talking with an ex-BW designer I know that after all was said and done determined we wouldn't be happy with that model. Must say though the recreational 31L offered a lot more amenities and at least twin 300hp inboard diesels than that Vigilant for a lot less $$$, in fact that Vigilant 31 is in my mind is way over priced.

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