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msc posted 05-21-2002 10:49 AM ET (US)   Profile for msc   Send Email to msc  
I have now owned my 28 Outrage for 1 year and thought ya'll might be interested in my observations (maybe not). This is my fourth whaler. Prior to this boat I owned a 1978 montauk, 1988 outrage 18 and a 1992 23 walkaround. Without a doubt the 28 has the best ride as you would expect. Fishing amenities far exceed those offered on the smaller boats. The one thing they all have in common is poor accessibility to essential systems. The 23 had the most orderly wiring behind the helm. You need to be a contortionist to reach certain areas in the 28 and heaven help you if you pull the instrument panel and need to trace a wire. Fit and finish is similar to the other whalers I have owned with a few minor minor blemishes. The factory canvas was absolutely lousy. I had to spend an additional $2500 for a custom job. The Optimax engines seem to be fine with 95 hours on them. I have been in some truly snotty weather and have developed a real appreciation for the hull design. The ride is comfortable and dry. The large fuel capacity is appreciated as well as the fresh water capacity. Helm layout and seating are excellent but visibility when coming up on plane could be a problem for shorter folks. The bait prep station is well laid out and useful. The foldown foot rest is useless. Below the storage area is good and the head is not an afterthought. I would never consider using the area as a berth it simply would not do for anyone other than a child.
Having owned old whalers and now new whalers, whalers with true hull liners and whalers without hull liners I find the same consistent solid construction with quality components but the same consistent inattention to certain details (scupper designs, electrical wiring, accessibility etc.) I could have bought a Grady, Regulator, Pursuit etc but in the end when you put them side by side (and you have a harpoon through your soul) the Whaler wins. Just my personal observations.
roofer posted 05-21-2002 11:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for roofer  Send Email to roofer     
Thanks for the post, I just bought my first whaler. 18 ft outrage. I was back at the marina running some errands. I stopped in to look at the new boats, of course. The big whalers look really great, i had to leave the showroom quickly to stop myself from getting to enamored. thanks for the info
Crackerjack posted 05-31-2002 07:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Crackerjack  Send Email to Crackerjack     
msc, i just bought a '92 23 WA and like it so far. what are your thoughts on this hull? i have a full tower on the boat and powered by twin 200 hp yammy's. thanks for the info!
TRAFFICLAWYER posted 06-02-2002 11:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for TRAFFICLAWYER    
I think your right about some of the wiring issues. A friend of mine has the 28 Conquest,
Whaler places the batteries near the boarding ladder, places battery switches aft,where they can easily accomodate water and places electrical switches aft so when you wash down you can wash down your electrical system!! GREAT Ideas!
msc posted 06-09-2002 04:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for msc  Send Email to msc     
Crackerjack, I thought my 23 was a great boat. You have to trim it properly to get the best ride in chop (as with all boats) but I found it dry and well made. My only real problem was the indeck fish boxes. They are not guttered and water enters easily and melts your ice. The live well was not great but since I don't use live baits i used it for storage. The starboard side storage under the seat pedestal tended to get wet so you learn to put things that need to stay dry in containers. Fuel tankage could have been more, maybe 200 gal. Other than that it was great.
Trafficlawyer, I just got back from 6 days fishing out of Ocracoke and had some lovely seas a few days. Took water over the bow,sides and I imagine over the engine area as well. It's interesting to note the seemingly poor design of the battery hatch locations etc but in all fairness with over 150 hours on the boat at this point it has not been a problem. It does seem ,however, they could do a better job of locating them. My main gripe is everything is so hard to get to. Heaven forbid you should want to get to the seacocks serving the generator or ac. All in all though, the 28 hull is one hell of a boat.
TRAFFICLAWYER posted 06-09-2002 07:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for TRAFFICLAWYER    
I had intended to purchase a 28 conquest. However my friends has had the inner liner replaced and there are still cracks all over it. Poor design as far as battery switch and battery location and bad choice of location as to aft switches. I decided to look at the jupiter and pursuits's.
JoeyP posted 06-09-2002 09:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
I have the 275 Conquest. The batteries are placed in the center hatch area. Easy to get to and far away from the outer transom. I didn,t like the placement of them on the 29 Conquest.

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