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David Pendleton posted 09-04-2002 06:23 PM ET (US)   Profile for David Pendleton   Send Email to David Pendleton  
Ever notice how many 1 and 2-year-old 28 Conquests are for sale on Yachtworld?

I just looked at more than a dozen of them.

It seems strange that someone would spend $100K+ on a boat, and then decide to unload it.

Dave

dhlaw posted 09-04-2002 06:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for dhlaw  Send Email to dhlaw     
I think alot of people buy them who have that kind of money but expect a different experience. I love my 28 but I spend alot in maintenance, sweat , and time keeping her in good shape. Further, failure to do the above results in bad boating days. I have talked to a few sellers and they sem to want a big boat that requires no maintenance and is ready to go at all times.....Ha!
David Pendleton posted 09-04-2002 07:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
A lot of money, or a lot of time?
lhg posted 09-04-2002 07:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Quick turnover on a Company's recent boat models is never a good sign. Selling a fairly recent outboard boat means a big depreciation loss to an owner, so there must be a reason for willingness to take such a bath. It has been happening with a lot of Whalers built since 1996. That's why new designs are appearing so quickly, to have something new to compete against the used ones. Large quantities of same model recent boats on the used market hurt new boat sales.

Used Classics are much more in demand than used recent models. Good ones go almost overnight.

jimh posted 09-04-2002 09:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Locally (SE Michigan) there has been an newspaper classified advertisement running every weekend almost all spring and summer for a 28-CONQUEST.

They've been reducing the price, and at last sighting the boat was listed with a new broker. With about 30-days of the boating season remaining, I wonder if this CONQUEST will be sold this time around.

The price is over $110,000. For that kind of money you can almost buy a 30-foot TIARA.

OutrageMan posted 09-04-2002 11:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
You see this happen with a lot of regularity in the larger boat market. Just take a look at the broker listings in the back of the boating mags. They are littered with Hattaras, Bertram, Marinette, Navigator, etc.

It is even more prevelant with the 90+ footers by the likes of Burger, Chritensen, and Palmer Johnson.

I think it is more of one of two things.

1) The boat was more than could be handled financially.

2) The people have enough money to flip a boat every 2-5 years for the latest model.

Brian

dogface posted 09-05-2002 08:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for dogface  Send Email to dogface     
I don't think most people that buy these large boats have any idea how expensive they are to operate. Has nothing to do with design or old vs new. The new Whalers are as good or better than the older models. I'll put my Conquest up against any year or model Whaler in any conditions, just need 2 feet of water :) Another big issue these days is the ECONOMY. Folks don't have the money to put into fun activities and I think that is when the "boat has to go" Should be seen as a good time for someone looking for a good used boat. Man I'll tell ya that unless Dubya gets a hold of things there will be alot more on the used boat market.
Dave
roofer posted 09-05-2002 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for roofer  Send Email to roofer     
I think the most telling thing I have noticed about this website is that I have yet to hear from someone who ones one of the really large new BW. I think that perhaps these owners not all of them but most view there boat in a differnt way from what most who frequent this website do. Given the cost it is most likely one toy from an arsenal of toys and therefore not viewed as being as important as how you or I would view our boats. When they discover the amount of work and most likely that they are not using there boat that much, given that when they do use it they have to work a bunch since guest rarely have the know how to relive the skipper from most or any of his duties, especially if they use it to fish.

I guess most of what I think is do the fact that large boat owner do not frequent this site, I have always found that to be odd and I have never understood why they would not want to learn about such a great boat. maybe I am totally wrong, no real way to tell.

dogface posted 09-05-2002 07:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for dogface  Send Email to dogface     
I Own a 28/29.5 Conquest. I read the forum at least once a day and comment as I can. My Whaler is my Baby. Whaler is the only boat I have ever wanted. I would sell my house before my boat. I think you might find that many floks borrow heavily to buy such big purchase and when things get rough (the economy) they dump the boat. I would like to think we are all part of the Whaler big family big boat or small.
Dave
Sin-D-Lea
28 Conquest
dogface posted 09-05-2002 07:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for dogface  Send Email to dogface     
Now ya got me thinkin??? I wonder how many times I have posted here? I have posted both on The FS forum and THT forum over 100 times. I'm thinin I have posted here quite a few times. I'll certainly try and add my worthless 2 cents more often if anyone might be interested.
Dave
JohnAz posted 09-05-2002 08:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for JohnAz  Send Email to JohnAz     
Just click on you file by your name and you have 37 posts
roofer posted 09-06-2002 10:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for roofer  Send Email to roofer     
I was not attempting to speak badly of anyone on this site, I would love to have a large whaler someday myself. It was just an observation and I could be totally wrong. I hope that I have not offended anyone. I have used this website often to find out information and it has been awsome all of you have helped me termendously. I was not attempting to make a blanket statement,please accept my appoligies if my post was not clear.
dhlaw posted 09-06-2002 10:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for dhlaw  Send Email to dhlaw     
No offense taken roofer!! I frequent this board almost daily, and contribute from time to time. I feel the same way about my boat as anyone else here does, I love my Whaler. In fact I will never buy another brand outboard powered boat, period. I may someday own a large sportfish by Davis or Jarret Bay. I am familiar with every system in my boat, I do all of my own maintenance and my boat is in pristine condition. Now I will say that I know a few big whaler owners that dont even drive their own boat, they hire captains to take them fishing. This is not why I got into fishing/boating. I need the total experience!! Including the hard times!
David Pendleton posted 09-06-2002 12:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     

Speaking of big Whalers, I noticed that the 27 Offshore featured on Cetacea p. 63 is listed for sale on YW.

Dave

dogface posted 09-06-2002 10:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for dogface  Send Email to dogface     
No offense taken here. It is almost embarrasing sometimes so many folks rubber neck when passing my boat. God I Love my Whaler. I dont like people trying to help clean her up. I send every body home, open a cold one and clean to my hearts content. My fav Whaler is still older OutRages.
Dave
JoeyP posted 09-08-2002 10:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
Right behind you Dave. I have a 275 Conquest and love everything about it. The layout on this boat fit MY needs. The choices were out there and I choose this boat for ME. I certainly did not buy it on everyone elses personal opinions. I hope they save them for their own boat purchases.
msc posted 09-09-2002 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for msc  Send Email to msc     
dhlaw, I too love my 28 outrage. It draws lots of comments down here in Grady country. And like you, Dave, nothing is more pleasent than making her shine which is not hard to do (about 3 cold ones after a dirty fishing trip). I think one reason some may be getting rid of their large whalers could be economy but I believe some may also find that they have bitten off more than they can chew. These are not trailer boats although some may do so. So most are probably kept either in wet storage with the attendent issues or possibly dry storage at some expense. I think simply handling these boats around docks etc is far more difficult than the smaller boats and what looked easy may have turned out to be difficult. Just some thoughts.
dogface posted 09-09-2002 11:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for dogface  Send Email to dogface     
Good point. Man what a pain to get it to the shop for work. I used to drive 18 wheelers so I am not intimidated by towing and all the crap that is involved with a large "wide load" boat. I have also found that the more things I can repair, update, fix, install, etc, myself the the better off I am. The more I do the more I know about her individual systems the more I can fix. There is no more wonderful feeling than leaving Crystal Bay, pegging the throttles and knowing I don't have to see land for days if I don't want to.
Dave
flwhaler posted 09-18-2002 12:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for flwhaler  Send Email to flwhaler     
Let me add this...

Maybe the reason large whaler owners are selling is that they are appealing to what I
call "wagoniers" (folks who jump on the bandwagon)
Example: The SUV craze.

Most can afford a SUV...or at least justify the cost. Unlike a big whaler.


michael

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