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bsmotril posted 10-01-2002 09:13 PM ET (US)   Profile for bsmotril   Send Email to bsmotril  
Just for grins this past weekend I pulled my Conquest 23 across a truck weigh scale. I was suprised at the weight. Based on Whalers stated weight for the 98 Conquest 23 (I think it was 2750 lbs dry), I had estimated the rigs weight at around 6200 lbs. I was suprised to get a weight ticket of 7800 lbs, 400 of that being tongue weight. This was with full fuel, oil, 20 gallons fresh water, hardtop, electronics, twin opti 135s, and about 30 pounds of sinkers. Either my trailer is a lot heavier than I thought, or the stated weight was low. Glad I tow with a 3/4 ton Cummins Dodge. BillS
BillS
David Pendleton posted 10-01-2002 10:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
That seems a little light.

I've weighed my truck (also a Cummins Ram) alone and with trailer.

Truck alone with a full tank of diesel and my big butt was 6700lbs.

Truck, boat (a 23 Conquest IO) and trailer was close to 13,500lbs. That was with about 70g fuel, 20g water and not much gear.

Dave

bsmotril posted 10-02-2002 08:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
7800 was just for the boat. Add in the truck and the total weight was 14,878 for a 3/4 ton 4x4 extended cab.
BillS
jimh posted 10-02-2002 08:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Good thing you are not loading to a tongue weight of 10% of the trailer--that would be 780#

Assuming your rig tows well, it is more evidence that a tongue weight of about 5% is adequate. (400/7800=0.051)

tully_mars posted 10-02-2002 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for tully_mars  Send Email to tully_mars     
This is really interesting. I have been curious what a scale would say about my boat, but I am not surprised. Maybe there is more glass in the hull than you think? No matter, I tow with a Powerstroke F-250 too.

Tully Mars

Thanks for the valuble info Bsmotril.

diveorfish posted 10-02-2002 11:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for diveorfish  Send Email to diveorfish     
Earlier this year I weighed my 23 Outrage (T-top and twin 135 Optis) and trailer with about 125 gallons of gas, 6 gallons of oil and 9 gallons of water. It weighed in at 7,420 lbs with a tongue weight of 620 lbs. I was surprised at the weight also. It turned out that my salesman was confused about which model trailer I had. He wrote down 1,275 lbs when it actually weighed 2,000 lbs. With full fuel and gear Iím sure that my total weight would be around 8,000 lbs. This revelation forced me to get a ĺ ton rig.
ivansfo posted 10-02-2002 05:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for ivansfo  Send Email to ivansfo     
That explains why my Ford F250 5.4L gas truck tows my 23 Conquest like a dog. BTW, I want to try the same. Do those weight stations charge to let you weigh your rig? I was told out here in California that the Highway Patrol who runs these weight stations don't like it.

-Ivan

David Pendleton posted 10-02-2002 07:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
I get it now, Bill. Only the boat was on the scale...

I just looked at the printout from the CAT scale, and I was a little off. 6900lbs for the truck, 13,320lbs for the whole rig.

If I remember correctly, according to BW, the dry weight of my boat is 4700lbs. I don't know if that number includes a hardtop or not.

How much do a pair of Opti's weigh? They must be pretty heavy.

ivansfo--I was told that the highway weigh stations here in MN don't like to weigh non-commercial traffic, but I've done it. I figure if I pay taxes in this state, why shouldn't they?

If I were you, find a truck stop with a CAT scale. They're very accurate, and you get a printout as well.

Dave

David Pendleton posted 10-02-2002 07:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
And yes, you have to pay for a weigh at a CAT scale.

I think it was about $9.00.

Dave

diveorfish posted 10-02-2002 08:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for diveorfish  Send Email to diveorfish     
Ivansfo: Up here in Sacramento where I live there is a 4wd parts supply place called ďCentral 4wdĒ that has scale. They charged me $15 to weigh what ever I wanted. I donít know about the truck scales, as I have never tried them.

David Pendleton: The Boattest.com site has a section that compares outboards and they list the weight of a 135 opti as 455 lbs so thatís 910 lbs for twins. Heck, I thought I/Oís were heavy.

bsmotril posted 10-02-2002 08:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
I used a CAT scale at a local truck stop. They charged me $7.00. The scale has three separate platforms; one for the steering axle, one for the drive axles, and one for the trailer axles. I can fit all of my truck on the Drive axle platform, and the boat on the trailer axle platform. The weight ticket gives you a value for each platform and a total. I weighed my truck alone to get the truck weight and to calculate the tongue weight. An Opti 135 is about 450 lbs each.
BillS
David Pendleton posted 10-02-2002 10:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
How did you arrive at the tongue weight based on the numbers from the scale?

I've always wondered about my TW, I have a class V with a 1K ball mount, so I never really worried about it.

Dave

bsmotril posted 10-02-2002 11:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
I found the tongue weight by weighing the entire rig, then unhooking the trailer and weighing the truck alone. The difference in the weight shown for the scale platform holding the truck with and without the trailer is the tongue weight.
BillS
David Pendleton posted 10-03-2002 12:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
Bill --
I'm not sure I follow...

My weights are (from the CAT printouts):

Truck-
Steer Axle: 4180
Drive Axle: 2720
Gross: 6900

Truck/Trailer/Boat-
Steer Axle: 3800
Drive Axle: 3400
Trailer Axle: 6120
Gross: 13320

Dave

David Pendleton posted 10-03-2002 01:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
I've thought about it a bit, and maybe I'm on to something here...

Does this mean my TW is 680lbs?

Dave

bsmotril posted 10-03-2002 09:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
Your truck alone is 6900. With the boat attached, your truck is 3800 + 3400 = 7200 total. 7200-6900 =300 which is your tongue weight.

The true weight of your rig is this 300 lbs of tongue weight plus 6120 from the trailer axle for a total of 6420 lbs.

I did not use the steer axle platform on the scale at all. My entire truck fits on the drive axle platform, and the boat on the trailer axle platform. One less numbe rto deal with.
BillS
BillS

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