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TRAFFICLAWYER posted 11-04-2002 07:17 PM ET (US)
Am thinking about this product, although given the power options I'm not quite sure.
Would a 250 merc or Yamaha HPDI be sufficient or are twins the way to go?
tully_mars posted 11-05-2002 09:56 AM ET (US)
This is a very heavy boat, twins would definitely perform better and you would be much more pleased with the performance.
Tully Mars
captbone posted 11-05-2002 11:22 AM ET (US)
I have wondered the same thing myself, the boat is a BIG 25footer, but I have seen them with the 250 on them alot. What is top end with the 250?
diveorfish posted 11-05-2002 12:52 PM ET (US)
The BW web site lists the min. hp is 225 and the max. hp is 450. With that being said, twin 225’s is the way to go. 250 hp would seem to be underpowered when full of gas, gear and people.
TRAFFICLAWYER posted 11-05-2002 02:00 PM ET (US)
diveorfish,
captbone;
I think that given the weight twins are the way to go, just as a note, this boat was tested by whaler with twin 115's 4 strokers and it attained almost 40 mph.A single 250 efi would get 42.7 mph at 5700 rpm and about 10 secs. to plane.
captbone posted 11-05-2002 02:25 PM ET (US)
that speed with a single 250 is very respectable, may just need a doelfin to plan easier. A 250 hpdi would be the one i would want. twins are double trouble!
VMG posted 11-06-2002 10:18 AM ET (US)
IMO, a single 250 (of any stripe) would leave that boat underpowered. It weighs nearly 5000lbs empty. I know we don't buy these things to drag race, but just visualize yourself going to full power from no-wake speed. Now count "one thousand one..." to ten and consider getting on-plane as you count "ten." Ten seconds to plane is an eternity!
captbone posted 11-06-2002 03:08 PM ET (US)
just buy the hull alone and then get a 3.6 liter Evinrude V8 300 hp and put it on it. Other wise i guess twins is the way for this boat.
sarasotasteve posted 11-27-2002 08:47 PM ET (US)
I asked this earlier on the performance forum,& got similar responses about the duals being preferable.I'm Looking at a leftover 2002 255 w/ single Opti 225.The Dealer claims majority of the 255's are selling w/ this single engine,(single 250 EFI last year).Perhaps its cost, perhaps its intended use. Many buyers seem to be into family cruising on this boat, rather then full time deep blue fishing.This is a very different design for the Whaler. Having had a Sundancer I/O it seems to have a Sea Ray designer stamp to my eye, and like Sea Ray they have been "focus grouping", for sure! I am sea trialing this weekend,to see if it is a snail, and will have better idea then. Any futher opinions prior would be appreciated.
lhg posted 12-09-2002 03:16 PM ET (US)
It now appears that all of Whaler's larger boats, 24 Outrage and up, are Sea Ray design influenced through and through, and with no apologies for destroying the Classic Whaler look while searching for some ultra-modern design look, now for a second design generation. Without the famous Whaler logo on them, no one would recognize them as Whalers. They really should have Sea Ray logos on them instead. And all of this at the time when so many companies are bringing out new Classically designed boats, the "Classic" of the Classics have been abandoned. The Sea Rays and big Whalers, while all the time becoming more super-slick, are starting to look all that more dated and stuck in the blobbish Euro design of the late 90's.
Brunswick should learn the new Montauk lesson. This new hull, with it's still Classic Whaler look, is outselling any model they have yet to introduce. Now, if they'd only put the original RPS back into that boat.

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Author	Topic: Opinions sought ~Conquest 255 with 250 efi's?
TRAFFICLAWYER	posted 11-04-2002 07:17 PM ET (US) Am thinking about this product, although given the power options I'm not quite sure. Would a 250 merc or Yamaha HPDI be sufficient or are twins the way to go?
tully_mars	posted 11-05-2002 09:56 AM ET (US) This is a very heavy boat, twins would definitely perform better and you would be much more pleased with the performance. Tully Mars
captbone	posted 11-05-2002 11:22 AM ET (US) I have wondered the same thing myself, the boat is a BIG 25footer, but I have seen them with the 250 on them alot. What is top end with the 250?
diveorfish	posted 11-05-2002 12:52 PM ET (US) The BW web site lists the min. hp is 225 and the max. hp is 450. With that being said, twin 225’s is the way to go. 250 hp would seem to be underpowered when full of gas, gear and people.
TRAFFICLAWYER	posted 11-05-2002 02:00 PM ET (US) diveorfish, captbone; I think that given the weight twins are the way to go, just as a note, this boat was tested by whaler with twin 115's 4 strokers and it attained almost 40 mph.A single 250 efi would get 42.7 mph at 5700 rpm and about 10 secs. to plane.
captbone	posted 11-05-2002 02:25 PM ET (US) that speed with a single 250 is very respectable, may just need a doelfin to plan easier. A 250 hpdi would be the one i would want. twins are double trouble!
VMG	posted 11-06-2002 10:18 AM ET (US) IMO, a single 250 (of any stripe) would leave that boat underpowered. It weighs nearly 5000lbs empty. I know we don't buy these things to drag race, but just visualize yourself going to full power from no-wake speed. Now count "one thousand one..." to ten and consider getting on-plane as you count "ten." Ten seconds to plane is an eternity!
captbone	posted 11-06-2002 03:08 PM ET (US) just buy the hull alone and then get a 3.6 liter Evinrude V8 300 hp and put it on it. Other wise i guess twins is the way for this boat.
sarasotasteve	posted 11-27-2002 08:47 PM ET (US) I asked this earlier on the performance forum,& got similar responses about the duals being preferable.I'm Looking at a leftover 2002 255 w/ single Opti 225.The Dealer claims majority of the 255's are selling w/ this single engine,(single 250 EFI last year).Perhaps its cost, perhaps its intended use. Many buyers seem to be into family cruising on this boat, rather then full time deep blue fishing.This is a very different design for the Whaler. Having had a Sundancer I/O it seems to have a Sea Ray designer stamp to my eye, and like Sea Ray they have been "focus grouping", for sure! I am sea trialing this weekend,to see if it is a snail, and will have better idea then. Any futher opinions prior would be appreciated.
lhg	posted 12-09-2002 03:16 PM ET (US) It now appears that all of Whaler's larger boats, 24 Outrage and up, are Sea Ray design influenced through and through, and with no apologies for destroying the Classic Whaler look while searching for some ultra-modern design look, now for a second design generation. Without the famous Whaler logo on them, no one would recognize them as Whalers. They really should have Sea Ray logos on them instead. And all of this at the time when so many companies are bringing out new Classically designed boats, the "Classic" of the Classics have been abandoned. The Sea Rays and big Whalers, while all the time becoming more super-slick, are starting to look all that more dated and stuck in the blobbish Euro design of the late 90's. Brunswick should learn the new Montauk lesson. This new hull, with it's still Classic Whaler look, is outselling any model they have yet to introduce. Now, if they'd only put the original RPS back into that boat.