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170 Montauk Handles Rough Water; Excessive Drift?
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posted 11-09-2002 06:10 PM ET (US)
I finally got into a pretty deep chop yeterday [with a 170 Montauk]. I was out fishing with the kids this Friday in the lower Barnegat Bay. There was a descent chop out but nothing that I haven't seen before. The kids got cold and wanted to go home. I dropped them off at the dock (where my wife picked them up), and I went back out.
Wow, as I left the channel to go into the bay I hit the usual rip but this time was different. The wind really picked up and was running against the tide. I definitely saw a 4-5 foot chop, and the waves were real close to each other. The new 170-Montuak handled it. For a minute I thought for sure that I would take one over the bow, but no. A little rough and some pounding but still not bad. I was a little nervous turning around but I picked my time and no problem. I need to make sure that I don't get over confident.
I've noticed over this past season while drift fishing the boat drifts quickly, especially with a breeze. How quickly? Out pacing just about everyone else. Who else has noticed this?
I am assuming that this is due to the little amount of hull that is in the water. Will a bucket thrown overboard and tied to the stern solve this problem ?
posted 11-10-2002 02:38 AM ET (US)
I fished Raritan Bay and appreciated the good drifting tendencies of the 170, especially for fluke.
posted 11-10-2002 07:39 AM ET (US)
To the extent that your drift is the result of current or tidal flow, a bucket or drift sock won't do you any good. To the extent that the drift is caused by wind and is in a different direction than current or tidal flow if any, a bucket or drift sock could be just the ticket.
My advice is, give the bucket a try, see if there's an appreciable difference, and go from there. In conditions where the bucket makes a difference, a drift sock will make more difference.
posted 11-10-2002 10:11 AM ET (US)
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posted 11-10-2002 07:32 PM ET (US)
I'd say yes, try to use the bucket...you are seeing a wind effect when you are drifting faster than other boats.
posted 11-10-2002 08:11 PM ET (US)
First, thanks for the response... The bucket it is... and yes I believe it is wind induced.... Does anybody else see the same on the old or new Montauk models ?
posted 11-12-2002 09:33 AM ET (US)
If you are in the Bay, your drift is going to be wind induced, unless you are in Oyster Creek Channel during the tide change.
Try the bucket. At times I have found that it helps outside in the Ocean as well, depending on the wind
posted 11-12-2002 09:09 PM ET (US)
Anthony...How do you think your M170 handled the seas compared to a modified vee hull?? Uncomfortably ...and how safe do you feel in snotty weather??
posted 11-13-2002 04:54 PM ET (US)
Until this past weekend I had limited experience with the boat in snotty weather. First, it handles a following sea nicely. Regarding the chop 4-5 foot that I encountered, I think the boat handled pretty close but, probably not quite but real close, to a modified V since the bow in the new montauk was given more of a V than the classic montauk. With that said, for the size boat (17') I would feel as comfortable, if not more so, in the new M170 vs just about any other 17'. When you compare it to an 18', then you may see a difference such as a Parker 18, which is a nice boat and good value. On the otherhand a BW always floats....
Hope this helps,
posted 11-14-2002 08:38 AM ET (US)
To all who gave advice on the drift issue and bucket use.... thanks for the input...
posted 11-14-2002 09:39 AM ET (US)
Anthony, thanks. ironic for you to mention the Parker 18...that (& the P 21) is the other choice. Problem is the Parker has no bow storage, great when I'm fishing but I need a bow locker for gear. I think for the $, a great FIRST boat will be the M170. Thanks.
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