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CSG posted 11-22-2002 07:09 PM ET (US)   Profile for CSG   Send Email to CSG  
Guys, I'm a little confused in trying to determine what the difference is supposed to be between the Dauntless series of recent years compared to the Outrage series. Who is Whaler targeting each of these boats to?

Forgive a newbie question but I'm trying to figure out which boater will buy a Dauntless and which a like-sized Outrage and why do they make that choice?

dgp posted 11-22-2002 07:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Dauntless = coastal and inland lakes.
Outrage = bluewater offshore waters.
lhg posted 11-22-2002 07:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
But there is nothing to say you can't use an Outrage in coastal waters and inland lakes.

Accordingly, the Outrage is considerably more verstile, and I believe is a better investment being such a highly recognized name for over 30 years now. The future of the Dauntless models at Whaler is unknown. Some have been discontinued, and only the 16, 18 & 22 now exist. With the new Montauk, the 16 Dauntless may not last much longer. I don't believe the 22 is a big seller either. The 18 seems to be the most popular. All are nice quality boats, however.

dauntlass 18 posted 11-22-2002 07:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for dauntlass 18  Send Email to dauntlass 18     
My thought would be bottom shape.I owned a Dauntless18 ft great boat.I now own a 21ft Conquest I think it is a Outrage hull with a cabin layout on it.The ride and handeling is much better due to a deeper v and more deadrise.The Dauntless is more of a inshore boat.In my opinion either model is a great boat.
aubv posted 11-23-2002 08:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
CSG,

It kind of depends on which Dauntless you are referring to. In 1995, 4 Dauntless models where available. Two where small CC models and two where Bow rider/walk through. Then a few years later BW introduced the Ventura series which became the Bowrider/walk through boats and the Dauntless all became CC boats.

Eventually because of overlap in the OR/Dauntless series BW eliminated the smaller OR's below 21' feet and the Dauntless series became the V hull boats for the 16-22' boat cat.

The original Dauntless small boats didn't have built in fuel tanks. Dauntless typically have less freeboard(reason for side rails?) than the OR's(example 22' Dauntless has 20" of freeboard 23'OR has 28" of freeboard w/only a 4" LOA difference) Dauntless have narrow gunwales- which prevents under gunwale rod racks/gunwale mount rod holders. Dauntless does have fold out rod racks. Dauntless lack in deck storage. OR's have larger fuel tanks, larger carrying capacities and can handle larger engines, they also weigh more.

The Dauntless are simpler boats in some ways but offer many more options such as trolling motor panel and pedestal seats.

As others have said, I believe the Dauntless is geared towards back water/ small fresh water lake use and the OR is geared towards open ocean or large fresh water lakes. That said, I've seen 30' Grady's w/twin 225's on small fresh water lakes and 13' whalers in the open ocean!

CSG posted 11-23-2002 11:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for CSG  Send Email to CSG     
Thanks for the responses. It had seemed to me that the small Dauntless' were designed to be replacements for the smaller Outrages. I was particularly curious to see the new larger Dauntless though along with the new smallest Outrage. They seem to be rather close in concept and design (but remember, I'm a newbie!).

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