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A happy new year.....
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posted 12-31-2002 06:31 PM ET (US)
to all. I just wandered down to my dock on a perfect afternoon to admire my OR 26. Our family has much to be thankful for this year, and a perfect day with our Whaler is the best way to finish it out.
Between the views of the "Classic" crowd and the new direction Whaler is headed, I sometimes feel it's a small group that appreciates this boat. Nonetheless, we couldn't be happier with it. We previously owned two Cobalts, so we know what to expect in a high-end boat. This one has met all of our expectations and is our long-term keeper.
I can only hope all other Whaler owners, "classic" or otherwise, get as much enjoyment from their boats as we do from ours!
posted 12-31-2002 06:43 PM ET (US)
You sound like a proud owner and you should be, We should look at Whalers regardless of when they were built for what the are. Safe, reliable, high quality crafts.
You should not feel like part of a small group. If you look at how Outrages have evolved over the years, they have made significant changes with each generation and all have been great boats that all of us Whaler people should be glad to enjoy regardless of the year of manufacter!
posted 01-01-2003 06:42 PM ET (US)
Hang in there TLVMercury. There are a lot of "post classic" owners that post to this site. The "Classic" guys have their opinions and that's ok, after all, this is the "Classic" Whaler Web site. The good thing though is, they were nice enough to provide the "Post Classic" forum for guys/gals like us that have new or near new Whalers. This "Post Classic" forum is a little quiet right now because most of us who have newer boats don't have many issues to discuss in regards to restoration and the like. You can learn a lot from the Classic guys though and when our boats start aging, this site will be worth its weight in gold if its still going.
As for your 26 Outrage, it has been unfairly maligned by many and most notably by the Internet marine surveyor Dave Pascoe. Maybe this is your chance to dispel some misinformation. I would ignore most of what Pascoe said because he doesn't know @#$% about the construction of Whalers and most guys on this site would back me up on that. Much of rest of what he says is pure opinion. He did talk a bit about driving the boat and made some very strange assertions that defy logic. My only question is: since I've never been on a 26 OR, how does it ride to you?
By the way, welcome to this site!
posted 01-01-2003 08:49 PM ET (US)
Welcome to the site and enjoy that 26 OR!
To the extent that your perceptions of negativity come from the Pascoe aticle that diveorfish refers to, put it out of your mind. Pascoe is a stuffed shirt that likes to hear himself talk. He's simply someone who has found the internet; that doesn't make him a good surveyor *or* a reliable resource.
posted 01-01-2003 09:01 PM ET (US)
I use the boat primarily on Galveston Bay; mostly short chop conditions. I find the boat rides well when I use the tabs properly - much softer than the Cobalts (which admittedly are freshwater lake boats). In addition, the ride is incredibly dry and stable. Presumably all hull designs are tradeoffs; in our conditions, the OR 26 is terrific. When people criticize the ride, I wonder if they have been using the tabs effectively.
Best of all, it just feels like a brick (out)house whenever it gets rough. A great feeling of security.
I imagine the newer deep vees are somewhat softer in a head or quartering sea, but I wonder if they are as dry.
posted 01-01-2003 09:39 PM ET (US)
I have been able to compare the 26 OR and the newer 270 OR. The 270 has the same solid feel, handles the rought water very well and is still a very dry boat. They(Whaler) must have taken what had worked on teh 26OR and improved the rest. Both are great boats, but the 270 had a softer ride.
posted 01-02-2003 02:07 PM ET (US)
TLVMercury: Your welcome. Those trim tabs make all the difference in the world on my 23 OR and I would assume it would be the same for a 26 OR. On a stock 23 OR with one engine and say a third a tank of gas you may not need tabs but, say you have twins a full tank and four of your 200 lb buddies sitting at the stern. Thatís about a 1900 extra pounds at the back of your boat. Of course you need to trim correctly.
BMR: You lucky guy. Youíve been on both the 26 OR and the 27 OR. Is the soft ride quality significantly better or just a bit better on the 27 OR? Also, any opinions about the roll stability when at drift, slow trolling or anchored? The feature I really liked about previous Whalers, including mine, is the stability when moving at slower than planing speed. My boat is amazingly stable. When diving or rock fishing offshore, my boat is at rest most of the outing. If a boat has a tendency to rock badly, gearing up or maneuvering about the boat is a real pain in the butt. Fortunately, itís not a problem in my Whaler. I wonder though if this feature is becomming a thing of the past on the newest Whalers?
posted 01-02-2003 05:52 PM ET (US)
The ability of the 270 to cut through seas is a significant improvement. Plane-ability is on a par with the 26 OR. The latteral stability did not seem to be an issue and the boat was still very dry like a Whaler should be.
posted 01-03-2003 10:17 AM ET (US)
Sometimes I feel the way about the chat stuff, old and new. To me, we all eat at the same Thankgiving buffet. We all appreciate our new boats, new or old.
Did we pay too much? Should we be worring about that? Are we that much different?
Our newer boats rarely have issues to discuss, only sweet words of excitement, joy and appreciation or reccomendations of electronics or equipment.
I couldnt imagine any boat over 20 w/o tabs!
Oh well, keep your coolers full!
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