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phoeker posted 01-03-2003 11:57 AM ET (US)   Profile for phoeker   Send Email to phoeker  
Looking for info and opinions from Whaler owners with similar boat and with either twin or single motor setup.
I will soon be repowering my boat with new Yamaha outboard(s) and am considering one of three options as follows:
1 F225TURB
1 Z250TURB
2 Z150
I have checked Yamaha's performance bulletins on all three options (on similar weight/length vessels) and it appears that the single four stroke is extremely efficient, with a dropoff in top-end performance. However, with my boat's 4,000 dry weight and a 225 minimum HP rating,I am extremely wary of underpowering. The twin HPDI efficiency is not as good, nor is the single Z250, so my decision is a difficult one.
Thoughts or comments?
Capt. Phil Hoeker
McAllen, TX
Chap posted 01-03-2003 12:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chap  Send Email to Chap     
Hello,
Interesting boat. I don't recall it being brought up here. Seem to be decent Bomb guys.

www.boatsetup.com/cgi-bin/ubb/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000752

May help.
Thanks
Chap

diveorfish posted 01-03-2003 12:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for diveorfish  Send Email to diveorfish     
Go with the twins. I know this sounds greedy but it seems me that you can never have enough power. I always have bunch of friends that want to go fishing with me and they always want to chip in for gas. As a result I havenít paid a dime for gas for about 4 months. The DFI engines are still pretty efficient even if you donít count the extra punch they have over 4 strokes. When you load the boat down, that extra punch sure comes in handy.
Barry posted 01-03-2003 01:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
Here's another vote for twins.

I'm a big fan of twins if you can afford them. I know they have higher initial cost, higher maintenance costs, potentially higher fuel costs, more weight, more to go wrong, etc. However, the additional safety, greater maneuverability, greater torque, better acceleration, less draft, and of course cooler look and sound, all factor in to greatly outweigh the negatives.

reelescape1 posted 01-07-2003 12:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
2 Z150's.......no other choice!!
phoeker posted 01-13-2003 08:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for phoeker  Send Email to phoeker     
Thanks for the input. Being extremely afraid of underpowering I put my order in for twin HPDIs.
reelescape1 posted 01-13-2003 09:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
Thats my favorite hull for a W/A!! My regular fishing partner has twin z150's on a 23' Triton...we regularly fish 40+ miles offshore. Those engines are SWEET!! It took the dealer a time or two or three to get the oil pump adjustment correct, but after that they sip the gas and oil.Post some pics for us!!
lhg posted 01-14-2003 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Wouldn't twin 200's be the power of choice for that boat?
phoeker posted 01-14-2003 06:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for phoeker  Send Email to phoeker     
I've heard some great reviews about both performance and efficiency. Does your friend have performance specs? I think the Triton is a light boat compared to a Whaler, but I'd be curious to know what his trolling/cruising performance is?
Since buying the boat in August from a dealer who had her for sale in the yard for a year (yes, a year!), I've done a lot of general re-wiring, added a custom aluminum radar arch with soft top and full enclosure, completely wet sanded, compounded and waxed her from top to bottom, have had a custom fiberglass fishbox/oil tank combo made (this boat came with oil tanks installed in the bilge!) and am now starting on the interior while awaiting the motors.
While I'd love to own a brand new Whaler, at a fraction of the price I've got a hull that looks as if it came out of the mold yesterday, and with the work I've done so far, I couldn't be happier with my progress.
Pictures will be posted soon. Thanks for your interest.
bsmotril posted 01-14-2003 11:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
Go to the edgewater boats web site and look at the performance specs they have on their hulls. They have several hulls with perfomance stats for both twins and a single in the HP ranges you are interested in.
BillS
msc posted 01-15-2003 11:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for msc  Send Email to msc     
phoeker, I owned a 23WA for 4 years in the early to mid 90s and had twin 175 evinrude spitfires. It seemed to me that I got 9-11 gph per engine at 3500rpms. I had a floscan installed during my second year of ownership so the numbers are probably fairly accurate if my memory hasn't screwed them up. I would take the boat from Wrightsville Beach NC to Ocracoke in June and typically burn 100-105 gallons and the trip lasted 5-6 hours. By the way...it was awesome coming up out of the hole. I was on plane damn near instantly. I would think twin HPDIs would not only improve your gph versus what I had but give you that shot in the ### when you power up.
reelescape1 posted 01-15-2003 12:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
Although he does have the Yam fuel management, I don't remember the specs. Running about 40 miles to fish, slow trolling for 4-5 hours and running back I seem to remember burning around 85-90 gals. That's from the re-fuel and not the YFM gauge.

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