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Jim D posted 02-25-2003 07:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for Jim D   Send Email to Jim D  
I'll be taking delivery of a new Montauk 170 in April. One of my first projects is to install a VHF. What is the recommended location for installing the antenna. Attach to center console or somplace aft?
If I mount it aft, is it difficult to rout the wire?
thanks for your help.
Jim D.
Swellmonster posted 02-25-2003 08:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Swellmonster  Send Email to Swellmonster     
Do you have a bimini top?
To you keep a full cover on your boat?
Jim D posted 02-25-2003 10:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim D  Send Email to Jim D     
I just bought it and have not taken delivery yet. I did not get the bimini but I did get a cover for the center console and seat.
I haven't decided yet whether to keep the boat outside under a cover or keep it in the garage.
If I install the antenna on the center console, that will obstruct the cover. If I install the antenna aft, not sure where to put it or if wiring it would be a problem.
Jimm posted 02-25-2003 11:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jimm    
Hi Jim, Being that you got the cover for the console and RPS, it also most likely covers the cooler seat in front of the console. Insure that this cover is made big enough so that if you put a larger fuel tank in the boat - Pate for example - it will be big enough to cover it also. Sounds like Woody got himself another customer. You'll love the boat, but don't mention how good it rides to the purists here - they're masochists and like to get beaten by the old ones :>) ...Jim
Beaner posted 02-26-2003 09:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Beaner  Send Email to Beaner     
I also just purchased a new Montauk and have been debating the VHF antenna issue myself. I have finally decided to mount a 4' fiberglass antenna on the starboard side about 2 feet off the floor. The 6' total length will fit nicely under the Mill bimini top I ordered. Although the antenna and radio will be pretty close together, alot of my friends have similar setups on their center consols and don't have any reception problems.
InHerNet posted 02-26-2003 02:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
I installed a 4 foot Shakespeare antenna on my 170 Montauk starboard console grab rail. I am able to drop it down on the side of the console when covering with the Mill canvas. It is mounted beween the rail and the windshield. The 4 foot has plenty of power.
Don
ghefty posted 02-26-2003 02:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for ghefty  Send Email to ghefty     
I went throught the same decision process before I tool delivery of my new 170 in December. Having learned to never go boating without a way of calling for help, I was determined to install a VHF in my new boat. Then someone suggested trying a handheld, I've owned one for years, kept mainly as a backup. I decided to try carrying my handheld and cel phone for a while. I've not had any problems using the handheld off the Florida keys, Yet. Do you boat in an area where the reception range would be a factor? If not, the handheld option may work, especially if you already have one.
James posted 02-26-2003 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     
Consider the 4 ft. Digital antenna mounted on a ratchet/adjustable type, stainless steel Shakespeare mount. Fits very well below the Mills Bimini. Excellent reception when mounted on starboard side near tackle trays. Drops down easily within the cockpit for storage/travel. The cooler-console-RPS cover goes easily around it and the cover zipper lies below it.

James.

Rodger posted 03-03-2003 05:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
If anyone has digital pictures of their VHF radio and antenna installation on a Montauk 170 can you please email me a copy at rodger@si-forest.com
Thank you very much,
Rodger
Swellmonster posted 03-05-2003 12:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for Swellmonster  Send Email to Swellmonster     
In-her-nets should have a pic.. it works.
InHerNet posted 03-05-2003 07:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
I will take a picture of the installation tomorrow and email it to anyone that wants to see the mounting of the antenna and installation of the radio.
Don
Jim D posted 03-05-2003 07:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim D  Send Email to Jim D     
Don, I'd appreciate pix of your installation. Thanks in advance.
Jim
Holy Cow posted 03-06-2003 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
InHerNet... I too would like to see a picture of the 170 Montauk Install... dugan@delanet.com

Also I think I have to either mount the ICOM horizontally through the console or flush mounted with bracket vertically facing up... This way I feel I will save space for the Garmin 182C and the Eagle Fish Finder on top of the Console!!!

Everyone says a 4 foot antenna is fine, but what range/reception difference is there compared to an 8' 5225 Shakspere??? Dan

TightPenny posted 03-06-2003 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
Just watch the location of your VHF, relative to the position of the compass.

I had all kinds of good ideas on where on top of the Console of my 2000 Montauk, I was going to place the VHF and the GPS, until I saw the radio move the compass. The VHF got moved to the aft face of the console below the wheel.

InHerNet posted 03-06-2003 01:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
Jim D,
I emailed the pictures to you and the email was returned due to the fact your mailbox was full.
Let me know when you empty it out and I will send them again.
Don
Jim D posted 03-06-2003 03:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim D  Send Email to Jim D     
Don, I don't know what happened. My town's cable service was down last night so maybe that had something to do with it. I have been getting emails all day today.
jcdreher@optonline.net

thanks again.

Rodger posted 03-06-2003 07:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
A big THANK YOU to James and InHerNet for sending photos of their VHF radio/antenna installations.
Rodger
Holy Cow posted 03-08-2003 11:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
Mounting the Shakespeare 5225 (8') vs. the 5240 (3') ...............Which one has the best reception???

Waiting for the new 170 'Tauk... Hopefully the dealer sticks to their word on 8 weeks!!! I will be suprised... Island Marine said they ordered 12 170s'... High demand means something has to give!!! Dan

triblet posted 03-10-2003 11:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Shake 5225 is a 6 dB gain antenna and will have
better reception than the 3 dB gain 5240.

Chuck

Bigshot posted 03-10-2003 01:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I had a 8' ant on my Hydra-sports that a low bridge removed for me. I had a 3' SS whip laying around and tried it out per the advice of the marine store. Works just as good, unbreakable, cheap, and not clumbsy. It supposably has the same gain as a 8' but not the really good 8' which is a lot more than $39. If not going more than 10 miles or so offshore, get a handheld.
triblet posted 03-11-2003 04:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
That 3' SS whip is a 3 dB gain antenna. The
8' antennas are 6 dB gain. Not the same.

I wouldn't trust a handheld to go 10 miles.
Lots of people say five miles, and that matches
my experience. And the CG antenna is over 10
miles away when I'm on the launch ramp, even
though the CG station is a block away.


Chuck

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