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HAPPYJIM posted 03-20-2003 10:04 PM ET (US)   Profile for HAPPYJIM   Send Email to HAPPYJIM  
I would like any info on 19' Outrage for offshore fishing 40 miles out of Oregon Inlet NC.
What kind of seas can this boat handle.
Is a 150hp Johnson motor big enough?
I saw one on ebay & am interested.
gf posted 03-21-2003 10:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for gf  Send Email to gf     

You're kidding right?

40 miles off the North Carolina coast in a 19' boat?

Make sure your insurance premiums are current.

captbone posted 03-21-2003 11:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for captbone  Send Email to captbone     
It is possible to use that boat that far but it may not be that good of an idea. That boat can take some pretty good waves, 6ft of anything except surf. But one spiller that fills the boat up will cause BIG trouble. I would look at a 21FT+ for offshore, I am off Long Island as you know the weather can change in a hurry. Just my 2 cents.
Barry posted 03-22-2003 11:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
The BOAT can handle almost anything. How much can YOU handle? ;-)

I spent a couple of years in Wilmington, NC and did a lot of fishing in a 19-nonWhaler. Most of that was within a few miles of the beach. If conditions were such that I could make it out the inlet I never had a problem outside. If you pick your days and watch the weather 40 miles is possible. I've seen Montauks out that far on really nice days.

That said, if you want to go that distance on a regular basis bigger is better. You'll be able to travel faster and more comfortably in a bigger boat. I would definately recommend a 22 over the 19.

Barry posted 03-22-2003 11:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
Opps, forgot I was in the Post-Classic area. Make that a 21, 23, or 24. ;-)
jimh posted 03-22-2003 12:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I would question if you carry enough fuel to make it out 40 miles, fish all day, and get back. If the weather deteriorates and you have to return in high seas, your gas consumption will probably be much higher. Manuvering in big waves at below-planing speeds will probably burn much more fuel than cruising at a constant throttle setting and on a nice, efficient plane.
HAPPYJIM posted 03-22-2003 03:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
I would only go out on ideal days...3ft seas or less....no chance of T-storms & stay close to charter fleet.....thats where the fish are anyway. I just want a boat that I can handle by myself if need be. I'm not looking to be a statistic. I realize that it is marginal but still do-able. Wouldn't even consider it in a non-Whaler. I would use the boat more inshore but still want the option to head on out if it looks good. Does anyone have this rig set up with the 150hp?
And I do appreciate all the comments good or otherwise.
whalersman posted 03-22-2003 03:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Happy,

I have an Outrage 18 with an Evinrude 150... I have never taken my boat out that far for several reasons...
1. I have had no other boats to go with me
2. I am relatively chicken to go out that far even though I grew up on the coast surfing, fishing, and boating.

As far a fuel aboard... Starting in 1992, the fuel tanks in the Outrage 19 were larger then the earlier 18's and 19's. The Outrage 18', and 19', up to 1991 had a 63 gallon fuel tank. In 1992 they switched to a 77 gallon tank.. There are some variations in 1992 so you have to be sure which tank you have... In 1993, they went to an 83 gallon tank...

This is a big difference... So, depending on what year Outrage 19 you are referring to, there can be as much difference of 20 gallons difference in the Outrage's fuel capacity....

HAPPYJIM posted 03-22-2003 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
whalersman,
Wow......that is a big difference in fuel.
How is yours with the 150hp?
enough power?
JoeH posted 03-22-2003 04:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeH  Send Email to JoeH     
Happyjim, I sent you an e mail last night. I have a 1992 Outrage made in June of 92 and it has a 63 gallon tank. It also has a 150HP Johnson. Thanks to my shoddy record keeping I have no idea what kind of fuel/hour I'm using. Joe
whalersman posted 03-22-2003 07:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Happy,

The boat has plenty enough power for me... I still have to play around with different pitch props and moving the eninge up a hole where it was originally mounted from the factory... "One Hole Up".... At the moment it is all the way down...

I haven't checked my speed with a GPS but the fishfinder (not truely accurate) gives me around 42 MPH.... Light load, 3/4 fuel..... I'm sure this will improve once I move the engine up a hole... Then I will try using different pitch props...

I think JoeH has one of the last Outrage 19's that had the original standard console, Full notched transom, and the 63 gallon tank (just like the 18's)... His was built in June of 1992... The catalogs for 1992 show a Hinged console, single notched transom, and a larger fuel tank...

Go figure.....

Regards,
Joe

HAPPYJIM posted 03-22-2003 10:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
the info is very much appreciated. Looks like the 150hp is good...just need to make sure the fuel is enough to get me back home with a comfortable reserve.
Does the boat handle good single handed?
HAPPYJIM posted 03-22-2003 10:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
Barry
I see you have a 22 outrage. I've been looking at one with twin 90's
Do you think that is too underpowered?
Did you take yours out in the Gulf Stream?
HAPPYJIM posted 03-23-2003 10:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
gf,
I don't carry life insurance....I use the money I save for fuel, beer & bullets!!
wayne baker posted 03-23-2003 11:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for wayne baker  Send Email to wayne baker     
I have a 1997 20 outrage. I have been 40 miles off ga. coast. No problems so far. I have a single 175 merc. I burn about 40 gallons of gas to go 40 to 50 miles offshore but my 20 has 89 gallon gas tank. My boat is probabbly better suited for what I do more often and that is inshore and in the sounds. It is not hard to handle at the dock either.

One mans opinion

mustang7nh posted 03-24-2003 01:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for mustang7nh  Send Email to mustang7nh     
CaptBone

I'm in Long Island also. Send me an email and maybe we can meet up sometime.

captbone posted 03-24-2003 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for captbone  Send Email to captbone     
I am out of Babylon, you?
TOPAZ 29 posted 04-02-2003 05:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for TOPAZ 29  Send Email to TOPAZ 29     
HAPPY,I fish out of Barnegat Light N.J. one of if not the worst inlets on the east coast!and have been out 40 miles+ in my 19'outrage.I have been caught in some very nasty sea conditions and the boat handled it fine!!!
Tom2697 posted 04-08-2003 01:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom2697  Send Email to Tom2697     
Happy, I have an earlier 18' Outrage (1989) that used to have a 150 hp Evinrude. I've taken mine out 40-45 miles into the Gulf of Mexico and had no problem even once the seas got rougher. The boat handled it fine....Me on the other hand....

Anyway, be REAL conservative about your fuel!!! I have a 63 gallon tank and can normally go about 150 miles (about 3 mpg - counting some reserve). However, after trolling offshore in 3 ft seas, I needed to fill up with 57 gallons after going 110 miles. Trolling will EAT YOUR GAS! Bring extra!!!

Also, make certain that you can stay in radio contact with someone when you go out that far. A fixed mount VHF has a longer range than a handheld. But, if there are no other boats around that can relay a message from that distance, look into getting a shortwave radio....

One last note, if you plan to go out that far, obviously you'll want to consider having a kicker...

lhg posted 04-08-2003 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
First of all, since this is the Post Classic section, are we talking about the same boat?
In 1996 a new 19' Outrage came out, later renamed a 20 Outrage when Brunswick took over. No one here has yet mentioned that one.

Regarding the Classic 18/19, for REALLY serious offshore duty, I would recommend twin 90 HP 2 stroke engines and a 28 gallon Tempo tank (or 2 13 gallons) under the Reversible Pilot Seat, Montauk style. Same recommendation for a Classic 20 or 22 Outrage, which also have relatively small tanks.

HAPPYJIM posted 04-09-2003 10:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
I guess I should have put more info in my original post. I don't want to spend more than 13,000 for the boat so early 90's or before would be more in my range. I don't know anything about the 19 footers. Had some time in a 21 Outrage with twin 100hp in the Coast Guard in mid 70's (sweet).
Saw the 19' with 150hp on ebay & it caught my eye. I regret not bidding on it. My fishing buddy has a Montauk & a 25' Revenge with 2/200hp. The Revenge is great for offshore but a big production to go out. I wanted something smaller that I could handle myself if I couldn't find anyone to go with me. Books & charts & specifications are good to look at but some ones input that owns a 19 footer would mean more to me. It sounds like the boat will handle it. Extra fuel tanks would be a must.
Thanks for the info.
Carolina posted 04-10-2003 10:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for Carolina  Send Email to Carolina     
Just as a little side note. Remember, when planning a trip or day on the water, use the "1/3" rule for fuel consumption. Plan your trip so that you calculate fuel usage of 1/3 out, and 1/3 back. This will leave you 1/3 of a tank in reserve for those times when wind, waves, or drift make your running time longer than expected.
mustang7nh posted 04-10-2003 09:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for mustang7nh  Send Email to mustang7nh     
Captbone-

I'm out east of Riverhead on the Nork Fork. I'll actually be in North Babylon Sun morning to meet a friend.

sternman posted 04-12-2003 04:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for sternman  Send Email to sternman     
Happy Jim:
I have an 89 18 Outrage with a Honda 130 and it flies.The original motor was an Evinrude 140 which was even faster. A 150 is more than enough and the max. recommended.I have fished this boat since new in nearly every conceivable sea condition in Chesapeake Bay,out of Rudy,Oregon,Hatteras,and Beaufort Inlets.This is a great boat that will always get you back but you have to go slow in seas 3 feet or more and it is not fun.I have fished these waters offshore over 200 trips (never in my 18) and only once were the sea conditions calm enough for an 18.The 18 is a great all purpose boat but you want to go offshore in the biggest boat possible;at least 25 feet IMHO.The 18 is great in the rivers,sounds,bays,and inshore on a calm day.It is not an offshore boat.
HAPPYJIM posted 04-17-2003 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
I just wanted to say Thanks to everyone that emailed me pictures and responded to all my questions. I came home late last night with my new Classic 1973 21' Outrage w/150 Evinrude. I bought it from this Forum from Dockgasinc. He went way beyond helping me just to sell his boat. I'm looking forward to landing my first fish in it soon.
jimh posted 04-17-2003 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
You mean all this time you've been talking about a 1973 19-Outrage? While everyone else has been talking about a totally different boat, the c.1990 19-Outrage!

captbone posted 04-17-2003 07:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for captbone  Send Email to captbone     
Is it a 21 or a 19fter?????
HAPPYJIM posted 04-17-2003 08:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
21 footer....
Lots & lots of people sent me info for pre & post Classic. Thanks to their input, I have a nice boat.....now on to the Marketplace to see if anyone has a T-top, leaning post or a bimini top for it.

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