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BWdaunt18 posted 04-16-2003 05:40 PM ET (US)   Profile for BWdaunt18   Send Email to BWdaunt18  
Last year I bought a Daunt 18 and Vangard trailer with brakes.

I had to replace the winch adn the solenoid in the first season.

Trailer brakes frequently lock-up when backing up. Manual switch between back-up and towing position does not move freely, especially when you need it to.

In sum, be cautious.


bsmotril posted 04-18-2003 11:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
Does the trailer have disk brakes? If so, the fifth wire is for the reverse lockout solenoid. You can't rely on the mechanical lockout as they trip as soon as the rearward pressure on the actuator is relaxed a bit.
jimh posted 04-19-2003 12:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
How about checking the name of the manufacturer of that trailer you are having all the problems with.

Is it Vangaard, or Vangard, or perhaps Vanguard?

jimh posted 04-20-2003 05:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
It is quite common for the dealer to order the cheapest trailer possible for a new boat being sold. That is how they keep the price low--skimp on the trailer.

If you use the trailer extensively you'll find that replacing much of the hardware is not unusual is you started out with a low-ball, cheap trailer.

But a winch is not a big deal. You can get a wonderful 2-speed D & L winch with 5,000 pound capacity for about $45 if you shop around. And it will last about 20-years, too, with great customer service as a bonus.

witsendfl posted 04-20-2003 09:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for witsendfl  Send Email to witsendfl     
There is a way to get around that 5th blue lead. A standard 4 prong can ne used.The last MALE lead I believe it for the tail lights. Turn on the head lights and that prong is HOT Plug in just that last lead into the female last reseptacle in the 5 prong trailer lead. That wil activate the back up solinoid. Have fun backing up

witsendfl JimK

lae posted 04-20-2003 10:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for lae  Send Email to lae     
I am confused. Wouldn't that defeat your brakes at night when you taillights are on? I considered that option on my new trailer before I went with a five wire plug.
witsendfl posted 04-21-2003 11:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for witsendfl  Send Email to witsendfl     
This scenario is ONLY when you are backing up,
NOT all the time. This allows you to keep a 4 prong plug, but allows a work around for backing up. HEADLIGHTS must be on, not on automatic like some newer cars.

Hope this clears the air.

witsendfl JimK

Swellmonster posted 04-23-2003 04:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Swellmonster  Send Email to Swellmonster     
Chances are very good that your trailer has a 2 year warranty. Even though whaler only has one on a new vessel.....:(

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