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4WHALERS posted 05-22-2003 02:09 PM ET (US)   Profile for 4WHALERS   Send Email to 4WHALERS  
Has anyone installed an hour meter in the new 170 Montauk? Any hints on best way to install?
Jimm posted 05-22-2003 02:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jimm    
I did not see the need for mine on the dash so I installed it under the console. I cut a piece of heavy white plastic and made a cutout into which the meter went. I then attached that to the upper lip inside the console door where the meter can be seen when the door is open. The positive wire goes to purple on the ignition switch and the other goes to ground. Finding a place to mount it was harder than the wiring.
4WHALERS posted 05-22-2003 02:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for 4WHALERS  Send Email to 4WHALERS     
Jimm-

Like you said, sounds easy on the wire side. Thanks for the advice. Can you get to the switch fairly easy?....and can you recommend an hour meter?

lakeman posted 05-23-2003 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for lakeman  Send Email to lakeman     
Mercury has a service meter witch installs under the motor schroud (cover) cannot spell today had one for years works great but pricy.
Jimm posted 05-23-2003 11:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jimm    
The brand was Teleflex; about $35. If you're agile enough to lay on your back you can easily do it. If you decide to go ahead send me an e/m and I'll check exactly which wire I hooked to...Jim
4WHALERS posted 05-27-2003 09:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for 4WHALERS  Send Email to 4WHALERS     
Jimm -

Installed gauge Sunday night. Made a bracket out of a peice of glavanize I had and mounted it to the bolt inside the console for the stainless railing for the console. Used approx 8" leads to wire to the back of the tach.

Works like a charm. thanks again for your help.

divefan posted 03-29-2004 06:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for divefan  Send Email to divefan     
lakeman:

You wouldn't have a part number for this by any chance would you?

Uncle Pug posted 03-29-2004 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Uncle Pug    
Since mine came with one as the right most gauge on the instrument panel I just thought they were standard.
MantyMonty posted 03-29-2004 10:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for MantyMonty  Send Email to MantyMonty     
I had an hour meter installed by Twin Cities Marine since she was maiden. It is a Mercury Marine "Cruiselog Gauge". The 3 page manual has no part number listed, but it matches the rest of the guages on my 04' Monty. The instructions look quite simple, even though I had them install it.
WT posted 03-29-2004 11:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Cruiselog part number 79859695A1 for the hour meter on the dash that matches the other stock gauges.

http://photos.yahoo.com/wtom95831

WT

Jim Ray posted 03-30-2004 05:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jim Ray  Send Email to Jim Ray     
Thanks for the tip Jimm.

I am just getting ready to mount an hour meter on my 170, and was stuck in conventional mode. I will copy you and mount inside the console. Will save work, preserve the appearance of the console.

Great idea.

Jim Ray

cape_rover posted 03-30-2004 05:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
Another reason to mount the hour meter under the console is that you may want to consider mounting a water temp gauge in the console. I believe the boat comes stock with a water pressure guage.
ghefty posted 03-30-2004 08:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for ghefty  Send Email to ghefty     
Hourmeter zip-tied to the back of the tackle center inside the console, the installation it may not look very professional but it serves my purposes of tracking service intervals. I bought the $35 Teleflex and had the dealer install it before delivery.

Last week I saw where the dealer had installed a flush mounted meter on the rear of the console facing the drivers knees.

jimh posted 03-30-2004 08:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I'd say that that harder it is to view the hour meter the less often you will look at it. If mounted under the engine cowling, it would seldom be seen. In the console is not as bad. On the console but not on the instrument panel is probably the best. I like to log the number of hours underway each day when on a week of cruising, so I'd look at the hour meter on a daily basis.

On the 170 MONTAUK there is a natural spot on the instrument panel for a fourth gauge. Since an hour meter does not require constant observation, perhaps that fourth spot on the instrument panel is not the best place, and might be better used for a gauge with another purpose.

I think the stock installation on these boats is to have

--Tachometer
--Voltmeter
--Water Pressure

Possible fourth gauges might be:

--Engine Tilt
--Engine Temperature
--Engine Hour

I have found it useful to have a tilt gauge when trying to show others how to operate the boat. It makes learning how to correlate the action of the tilt switches with the engine position easier. You don't have to turn around and look at the engine all the time. A really accurate, reliable, and repeatable tilt gauge would be nice, but perhaps not quite obtainable. Reference to the tilt gauge is handy when a new pilot takes control. I can show them on the gauge where the engine likes to be for starting on plane, once on plane, really trimmed out for maximum, etc. It is much simpler for someone who is not experienced or particularly intuitive to refer to the tilt gauge rather than to assess the engine trim by eye. (Hint: I discovered this when showing my wife how to run our boat.)

Engine temperature is also an important gauge for that fourth spot. It could help prevent engine damage or show signs of problems beginning to develop in the cooling system.

If neither of the above are contemplated, then I would use the fourth gauge position for the hour meter.

WT posted 03-30-2004 09:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Jimh:

I want an engine tilt gauge in the 4th position. Where would you recommend placing an hour and engine temp gauge?

I'm a novice and have been using my GPS/speed to try to figure out where to trim my motor.

Thanks,
WT

AQUANUT posted 03-30-2004 10:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
hey whalers

I mounted my hourmeter on the dash panel..b/w left a space for additonal small face gauge on right side of dash panel on 2004 mt170...good point..out of sight..out of mind...why I put it there..

there is some discussion about water temp gauge.

.FYI.

by the time the gauge tells you that engine temperature has exceeded notmal operating temp....your motor has already gone into "lymph mode" meaning; in an attempt to protect it from damage {the engine}, the motor will only operate in the low rpm range...in other words....if you can't turn the engine up above idle...you have a oil pressure or an cooling problem...and your engine needs service immediately.


my montauk is @ http://groups.msn.com/montauk170/photoalbum
click the pictures in sidebar

WT posted 03-30-2004 11:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Aquanut:

Nice pics of your 170. I sure wish I had a 115 HP EFI 4 stroke.

WT

Perry posted 03-30-2004 12:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Wasn't an hour meter part of the standard package? When I bought my new Dauntless 160, it came with one.

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