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Holy Cow posted 05-27-2003 11:23 PM ET (US)   Profile for Holy Cow   Send Email to Holy Cow  
... with three people and six rods... Where does everyone like to put the additional two rods for storage or access with out them rolling around on the deck??? I was thinking about the right side of the 170 where the Light pole is located for out of the way storage... Is there any other way to store an additonal two up front with the four holders??? I did find that that third person complained of reels sticking him in the back while sitting at the forward seat... I am thinking about an arm rest seat using the existing cushions to allow a better seating spot for the third man out or should I say In!!! Any Fishing rod storage spot ideas would certainly be a help though!!! Thanks HC
jaccoserv posted 05-28-2003 12:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for jaccoserv  Send Email to jaccoserv     
Do what I'm doing, put two rail mount rod holders on....problem solved.
Jimm posted 05-28-2003 12:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jimm    
HC, the rod holders that come with the "fishing package" are in my opinion poorly placed. If you have a bimini the rods will "hit the roof", otherwise the reels will tear the seat back or someone sitting on the cooler will either impale himself on a hook or break a rod. Currently I'm using Perko rail mounted holders. There are two grade levels. The first (chromed zinc) I'm told will corrode in three years while the second (chromed brass) will last quite a bit longer. Best price for the second in NJ is at Boater's World ($49 each).

Naturally if you leave extra rods in the rail holders they'll get in the way while fishing. I have not come up with a solid solution yet but am leaning toward some type of rod holder on the starboard side of the console, at floor level for extra heigh or buying a Nantucket.As it stands now the Admiral is trying to take my credit card away so I think the Nantucket is not on my horizon...Jim

Jimm posted 05-28-2003 12:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jimm    
PS: H Cow - you've got to get some rest and stop coming up with all these questions. At 11:30 PM you should be in your nest relaxing.
InHerNet posted 05-28-2003 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
I use suction J hooks that are made of plastic found at Walgreen’s. They rotate down to apply pressure to the suction cup and will not move. They can be placed anywhere on the boat. You can get them in two sizes, one holds the butt of the rod and the smaller one holds the mid-section of the tip. Keeps the rod out of the way and also double as a towel holder. I also use the small one on the console to hold my hat.

I will also add one more suggestion for you concerning the request for a T-Top on a Montauk or any other boat for that reason. I use a patio umbrella in the rod holder. Get the one with the wind flap opening in the center of the top. Easy to fish around without the support arms and straps that gets in your way with a bimini top. It can be removed at any time.

If you are truly a live bait fisherman, then get the Aqua World UT-13 tank with a transom mount pump. You can purchase mounting pads that attach to the floor that will allow you to remove the tank with four screws. The only modification needed is L brackets to raise the tank up so the overflow is higher than the splash well. I have a shut off valve with a quick release for the water intake. It also doubles as a wash down.

I have found over the years to keep everything removable on my boat as much as possible.

Don

Holy Cow posted 05-28-2003 09:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
Jimn... The only reason you want the Nantucket is for her space and her easy in choppy water??? I really question how much gain it would bring considering its going to cost almost twice to buy and almost twice to run and maintain... All for a little more space, comfort, and ride!!! HC
Holy Cow posted 05-28-2003 10:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
Went to the Boaters World today!!! Didn't find any decent rod/combo holders for the starboard transom side... I will be seeing the MT 170 this weekend and will see what convient location there is to mount an additional 2-4 rods... Really don't like the rod holders and reels sticking out beyond the white foam cushioned back rest... First it gets dirty and second you can't sit with your back to the cushion... I can see some kind of arm rests for that area too... I love the idea of a premolded arm rest seat using the existing cushions... I would like to see if the Maritime manufactured Wrap around console shelter would fit on this boat too??? Any one have any dimensions or if it would fit??? HC
aubv posted 05-28-2003 10:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Holy Cow,

How about on the vertical bulkhead in front of what passes for rear quater seats or in front of the motor well?

Traveller posted 05-29-2003 08:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Traveller  Send Email to Traveller     
How about an aluminum tubing device connected to the gunnels in front of the two quarter seats, rising high enough that the outboard could tilt under it, with rod holders across the width of the boat, tilted back slightly so rigs are out of the way, and down rigger bases attached on each end? It might resemble a miniature radar arch across the back of the boat. It isn't much of a description, but I can see it in my mind. If somebody could design such a thing, and put a small livewell under the rod holders, it would turn the back of the Montauk 170 into a serious pocket-sized sportfisherman.
Jimm posted 05-29-2003 10:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jimm    
Traveller - Yep, I can picture what you're saying.

aubv - the "lines" stick out from the motor so much on mine that if you were to put a rod holder on the cockpit side of the splashwell it would interfere with turning the motor. I'll probably go with the idea of holders in front of the rear seats, if they can be called that. I'd hate to sit next to one with an OB screamin' at WOT with nothing to hold on to.

HC - just some jocularity about the Nantucket. If you're in Raritan Bay/Sandy Hook area, keep an eye out for "Happy Ours".

IHN - I'll look in Walgreens.

Holy Cow posted 05-30-2003 07:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
Jimm... Say Hi to Frank at Jullians in Highlands... I love Sandyhook... How does the Montauk 170 handle at the Hook??? HC
chaimemet posted 05-30-2003 05:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for chaimemet  Send Email to chaimemet     
I bought 4 articulating solid stainless rod holders fro Precision Marine Hardware in Costa Mesa Ca. They were not cheap up to $90 @. I ordered for 1" rails I returned theinternal blocks for xchange the rails are 7/8s
chaimemet posted 05-30-2003 07:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for chaimemet  Send Email to chaimemet     
Purchased Kodiak 17 gl oblong with transom pump need solution to outflow which is 11.5" and engine sump area is 14.5". InHerNet posted previous to use L brackets? Water and tank would weigh over 150lbs can that be supported above the deck floor by L brackets alone without tearing out a floor mounted bracket? I had a 4 rod holder assembly attached to the tank for an alternative to the forward rod holders which would not work with a Bimini anyhoo.
InHerNet posted 05-31-2003 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
I looked hard at the Kodiak 17-gallon tank before I went with the UT-13. The problem is the overflow outlet height to the splash-well height. Here's the solution. Aluminum 1/8" Angle 3" x 1-1/2" x length of two screw slots plus two inches. Drill the holes for the tank attachments first then attach the bolts to the tank. Turn the tank over and mark the location for the pads and drill those holes and attach the pads. I have my angles facing in under the tank. Place the tank on the deck in the location you want and mark around each of the pads without moving the tank. Attach the pads to the deck, remove the angle from the tank then attach the angle only to the pads on the deck. Slide the tank between the angles and reattach the bolts to the tank.
My choice with the UT-13 was the size and distance around the bilge pump access panel. I wanted to have the ability to step over the tanks and yet still have plenty of room on both sides for fishing. The setup allows me to open the access panel without removing the tank.
So far my bait has stayed lively and fresh all day. Even right now I have a couple dozen blue craps in the tank from yesterday evening’s tarpon fishing trip. I put a portable air bubblier in to help them along.
The weight is less for the UT-13 compared to the Kodiak 17. The UT-13 holds 12-1/2 gallons. Less weight, less room, not too tall, keeps plenty of bait, and easy to remove.
Don

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