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David Pendleton posted 06-29-2003 04:01 PM ET (US)
Nearly every time someone asks about wax on CW, the overwhelming majority of respondents recommend Collinite.
I've decided to bite the bullet and go with the Collinite on my Conquest. This is no small deal for me, as I wax every smooth gel-coated surface, including the cockpit and hardtop (mine is powdercoated). This normally takes me about 8-12 hours.
Which brings me to my question: if you use Collinite, do you use it below the waterline? How does it hold up? My boat is stored on the trailer so I'm not worried about slime or growth, but I don't want to have to do this again until next year.
Thanks all.
Dave
David Pendleton posted 06-29-2003 04:04 PM ET (US)
Almost forgot my second question. Has anyone noticed any major differences between the hard paste and liquid varieties of Collinite?
Thanks again.
Dave
jaccoserv posted 06-29-2003 07:36 PM ET (US)
I prefer the hard paste in the can. It is harder to get off but just works better.
jaccoserv posted 06-29-2003 07:36 PM ET (US)
I prefer the hard paste in the can. It is harder to get off but just works better.
lhg posted 06-30-2003 03:31 PM ET (US)
Dave:
I just "Collinited" the entire exterior hull of the 25, in preparation for "Rendezvous" season on the Great Lakes, except where I couldn't get to it under the trailer wheels/fenders.
I find it holds up extremely well under water and at water lines, and allows scum/grease lines to wipe off without using Fantastic or something like that, which takes off wax.
Before you apply this wax, be sure the boat is first well cleaned polished with 3M Finesse-it II.
I use the liquid Collinite, and I order it at Shoreway Marine to save a few bucks, where it costs $14/bottle. Same with Finesse-it, expensive items all.
I am absolutely convinced this is the best boat wax on the market, and holds up longer. I'm talking about the #925 Pure Boat Wax, and this product does not come in paste form.
It's consistency is not a liquid, but more like soft "Jello". The Fleetwax product has cleaner in it, but is good if the boat is showing signs of staining or very light oxidation, and is available in both liquid and paste.
joncoastie posted 06-30-2003 05:24 PM ET (US)
I have used Collonite fleetwax, both liquid and paste for quite some time. The paste does hold up longer than the liquid. If I wax below the water line, that portion of the boat is resistant to the tannic acid stains the boats get here in the river. And my fleetwax does not have any cleaners in it as someone else posted.
lhg posted 06-30-2003 05:27 PM ET (US)
The Fleetwax liquid has cleaners in it, but evidently the paste version doesn't.
diveorfish posted 07-01-2003 10:58 AM ET (US)
I was just curious. I've been told by many that you aren't supposed to wax any surface below the waterline due to the excess drag it causes. Is Collinite different or has the drag effect been overstated to me?
David Pendleton posted 07-01-2003 02:42 PM ET (US)
I was under the impression drag would be reduced...
jaccoserv posted 07-01-2003 11:47 PM ET (US)
I too would think that the drag would be reduced. Fleetwax paste(in the can) is what I use.
diveorfish posted 07-02-2003 10:33 AM ET (US)
That's what I thought too but my dealer was very adamant that I DO NOT wax any wetted surface.
Barry posted 07-02-2003 11:10 AM ET (US)
diveorfish, regarding wax below the waterline you might want to check out some of these topics:
continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001238.html
continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003081.html
continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003999.html
David Pendleton posted 07-02-2003 11:52 AM ET (US)
Thanks for all the great info. I was not aware of the air-bubble phenomenon.
I've already waxed the topsides, I think I'll stop there. My arms will appreciate the reprieve.

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Author	Topic: Collinite below the waterline?
David Pendleton	posted 06-29-2003 04:01 PM ET (US) Nearly every time someone asks about wax on CW, the overwhelming majority of respondents recommend Collinite. I've decided to bite the bullet and go with the Collinite on my Conquest. This is no small deal for me, as I wax every smooth gel-coated surface, including the cockpit and hardtop (mine is powdercoated). This normally takes me about 8-12 hours. Which brings me to my question: if you use Collinite, do you use it below the waterline? How does it hold up? My boat is stored on the trailer so I'm not worried about slime or growth, but I don't want to have to do this again until next year. Thanks all. Dave
David Pendleton	posted 06-29-2003 04:04 PM ET (US) Almost forgot my second question. Has anyone noticed any major differences between the hard paste and liquid varieties of Collinite? Thanks again. Dave
jaccoserv	posted 06-29-2003 07:36 PM ET (US) I prefer the hard paste in the can. It is harder to get off but just works better.
jaccoserv	posted 06-29-2003 07:36 PM ET (US) I prefer the hard paste in the can. It is harder to get off but just works better.
lhg	posted 06-30-2003 03:31 PM ET (US) Dave: I just "Collinited" the entire exterior hull of the 25, in preparation for "Rendezvous" season on the Great Lakes, except where I couldn't get to it under the trailer wheels/fenders. I find it holds up extremely well under water and at water lines, and allows scum/grease lines to wipe off without using Fantastic or something like that, which takes off wax. Before you apply this wax, be sure the boat is first well cleaned polished with 3M Finesse-it II. I use the liquid Collinite, and I order it at Shoreway Marine to save a few bucks, where it costs $14/bottle. Same with Finesse-it, expensive items all. I am absolutely convinced this is the best boat wax on the market, and holds up longer. I'm talking about the #925 Pure Boat Wax, and this product does not come in paste form. It's consistency is not a liquid, but more like soft "Jello". The Fleetwax product has cleaner in it, but is good if the boat is showing signs of staining or very light oxidation, and is available in both liquid and paste.
joncoastie	posted 06-30-2003 05:24 PM ET (US) I have used Collonite fleetwax, both liquid and paste for quite some time. The paste does hold up longer than the liquid. If I wax below the water line, that portion of the boat is resistant to the tannic acid stains the boats get here in the river. And my fleetwax does not have any cleaners in it as someone else posted.
lhg	posted 06-30-2003 05:27 PM ET (US) The Fleetwax liquid has cleaners in it, but evidently the paste version doesn't.
diveorfish	posted 07-01-2003 10:58 AM ET (US) I was just curious. I've been told by many that you aren't supposed to wax any surface below the waterline due to the excess drag it causes. Is Collinite different or has the drag effect been overstated to me?
David Pendleton	posted 07-01-2003 02:42 PM ET (US) I was under the impression drag would be reduced...
jaccoserv	posted 07-01-2003 11:47 PM ET (US) I too would think that the drag would be reduced. Fleetwax paste(in the can) is what I use.
diveorfish	posted 07-02-2003 10:33 AM ET (US) That's what I thought too but my dealer was very adamant that I DO NOT wax any wetted surface.
Barry	posted 07-02-2003 11:10 AM ET (US) diveorfish, regarding wax below the waterline you might want to check out some of these topics: continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001238.html continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003081.html continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003999.html
David Pendleton	posted 07-02-2003 11:52 AM ET (US) Thanks for all the great info. I was not aware of the air-bubble phenomenon. I've already waxed the topsides, I think I'll stop there. My arms will appreciate the reprieve.