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jaime_b posted 06-30-2003 09:51 PM ET (US)
I just got a new(last years) Montauk 17 and am contemplating adding some equipment and am looking for advice from other owners of similar boats.
The single 6.6 gallon capacity gastank it came with is inadequate for other than - very- short trips. I've added a 7.5 gallon Tempo plastic tank, but I figure that eventually I'll need a single 20 to 25 gallon tank. From the other postings it seems like the 24 gallon Pate Plastics fiberglass tank is the way to go, with the least amount of modifications to the seat, bilge access, etc. Does anyone out there know of any better ideas?
I'm wanting to add a baitwell/livewell. From my research, an Aqua World UT13 13 gallon tank seems like a good size, and should have its overflow high enough to drain over the transom. I'm also considering a Kodiak 17 gallon tank, but I'm concerned that it may not have its overflow high enough to work properly w/o raising the tank. In both cases, I'm planning on using a transom mounted pump - I just can't see drilling through that new hull, particularly since at the boat centerline I estimate the hole would be over 10 inches long...
Any ideas about the best place to mount a VHF radio and its antenna would be appreciated. I'm considering putting it on the center console below or to the side of the wheel, facing up, but I'm concerned it may be in the way there. I don't want to install it into the console with a face plate type mount because of losing capacity inside the console and because a faceplate type mount would require a hole cut to its size, which later wouldn't fit anything else... As to antenna, I'm considering a 4' stainless whip, but I'm concerned with interference with the bimini, which is a necessity here.
InHerNet posted 06-30-2003 10:12 PM ET (US)
Well your thinking is about on target. First the 27-gallon Pate tank is the tank you need. The Aqua World UT-13 tank will also need to be raised up for it to overflow into the splash well. Also mount the antenna on the grab rail with a ratchet to fold it down. Mount the ratchet to the inside between the rail and the windshield. If you need pictures email me. I will be out of my office until Wednesday. I have the exact setup.
Don
jimh posted 07-01-2003 10:25 AM ET (US)
If you are talking about a 170-MONTAUK I would be glad to change the TOPIC to that designation. I believe one could also get a "classic" 17-MONTAUK in 2002, so there is confusion about which boat is being discussed.
--jimh
Moderator
Moby posted 07-01-2003 12:52 PM ET (US)
To add to the confusion Jimh mentioned: I recently purchased an old-stock Montauk from 2002. The hull graphics mark it as a "Montauk 170", but the hull is definately the same cathedral design as my '77 Montauk, not the newer style. I would have expected the cathedral hulls to be labeled "Montauk 17".
jaime_b posted 07-01-2003 09:53 PM ET (US)
I've found out the same thing. There are two, different, hulls marked with graphics and sold as 2002 Montauk 170's; the older style hull with rails, console and other items the same as the earlier model Montauks, and the "new" 2002 Montauk 170 with many small changes. Looks to me like the changes were designed to reduce construction costs mostly; things like the rails on the newer hull being mounted just on the top of the hull edge, not braced like the earlier ones. The boat I've got- with graphics on the side saying Montauk 17, and a Feb 02 hull construction date, is the older hull style. See the review in the main continuouswave.com section on the specifics of the new hull.

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Author	Topic: 2002 Montauk 17 Equipment Questions
jaime_b	posted 06-30-2003 09:51 PM ET (US) I just got a new(last years) Montauk 17 and am contemplating adding some equipment and am looking for advice from other owners of similar boats. The single 6.6 gallon capacity gastank it came with is inadequate for other than - very- short trips. I've added a 7.5 gallon Tempo plastic tank, but I figure that eventually I'll need a single 20 to 25 gallon tank. From the other postings it seems like the 24 gallon Pate Plastics fiberglass tank is the way to go, with the least amount of modifications to the seat, bilge access, etc. Does anyone out there know of any better ideas? I'm wanting to add a baitwell/livewell. From my research, an Aqua World UT13 13 gallon tank seems like a good size, and should have its overflow high enough to drain over the transom. I'm also considering a Kodiak 17 gallon tank, but I'm concerned that it may not have its overflow high enough to work properly w/o raising the tank. In both cases, I'm planning on using a transom mounted pump - I just can't see drilling through that new hull, particularly since at the boat centerline I estimate the hole would be over 10 inches long... Any ideas about the best place to mount a VHF radio and its antenna would be appreciated. I'm considering putting it on the center console below or to the side of the wheel, facing up, but I'm concerned it may be in the way there. I don't want to install it into the console with a face plate type mount because of losing capacity inside the console and because a faceplate type mount would require a hole cut to its size, which later wouldn't fit anything else... As to antenna, I'm considering a 4' stainless whip, but I'm concerned with interference with the bimini, which is a necessity here.
InHerNet	posted 06-30-2003 10:12 PM ET (US) Well your thinking is about on target. First the 27-gallon Pate tank is the tank you need. The Aqua World UT-13 tank will also need to be raised up for it to overflow into the splash well. Also mount the antenna on the grab rail with a ratchet to fold it down. Mount the ratchet to the inside between the rail and the windshield. If you need pictures email me. I will be out of my office until Wednesday. I have the exact setup. Don
jimh	posted 07-01-2003 10:25 AM ET (US) If you are talking about a 170-MONTAUK I would be glad to change the TOPIC to that designation. I believe one could also get a "classic" 17-MONTAUK in 2002, so there is confusion about which boat is being discussed. --jimh Moderator
Moby	posted 07-01-2003 12:52 PM ET (US) To add to the confusion Jimh mentioned: I recently purchased an old-stock Montauk from 2002. The hull graphics mark it as a "Montauk 170", but the hull is definately the same cathedral design as my '77 Montauk, not the newer style. I would have expected the cathedral hulls to be labeled "Montauk 17".
jaime_b	posted 07-01-2003 09:53 PM ET (US) I've found out the same thing. There are two, different, hulls marked with graphics and sold as 2002 Montauk 170's; the older style hull with rails, console and other items the same as the earlier model Montauks, and the "new" 2002 Montauk 170 with many small changes. Looks to me like the changes were designed to reduce construction costs mostly; things like the rails on the newer hull being mounted just on the top of the hull edge, not braced like the earlier ones. The boat I've got- with graphics on the side saying Montauk 17, and a Feb 02 hull construction date, is the older hull style. See the review in the main continuouswave.com section on the specifics of the new hull.