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half shell posted 07-11-2003 07:28 PM ET (US)
Hello I sold my montauk 2 weeks ago and today picked up
my new to me 1998 17 OR w/150 Evinrude Ficht.I should have it cleaned and ready for a late afternoon trip to cuttyhunk tommorow.
It appears the Ficht is a decent motor from the few rides I have taken on it.
Regards Bob

whaler3 posted 07-11-2003 08:36 PM ET (US)
Lots of luck with your new to you boat. I think you will like the ride and it will be very good on fuel. I have a 97 or with a 130 Yamaha and love the combo. It is fast and rides well. Let us know how you make out on your first trip with it WHALER3
jimh posted 07-11-2003 09:29 PM ET (US)
I get a laugh outta this thread. Bad enough we are using capital "OR" as a confusing abbreviation for OUTRAGE, now we are using lower case "or" as well.
OR = Postal code for Oregon
OR = Jargon for Operating Room
or = a conjunction used to connect phrases
Outrage = a classic Boston Whaler model name
OUTRAGE = used in all caps on most boat decals
I changed the TOPIC to reflect this confusion.

Jerry Townsend posted 07-12-2003 01:35 AM ET (US)
Come on Jimh - in my mind, as I have mentioned before, if the communication is understood by those involved, the communication is effective. The context of the forum is all important - if one is talking of beautiful ocean beach scenery, then OR is normally understood as meaning the Oregon Coast. And generally, the posts of the forum are addressing different designs including the Outrage series where the abbreviation OR would be appropriate. Further, the posts of the forum do not generally address operating rooms - so that connection is out of the ball park.
I agree - the use of the lower case "or" throws a curve at all readers - and should be avoided - period!!!! That is just bad communication skills, bad writing - and well, bad everything.
And you rang a pet peeve - again - the word Outrage is a name addressing a particular configuration of Boston Whaler Boats - from when they were introduced until the current - and not just your stated "classic" boats. I think the so-called Outrage-II boats are just as much "Outrage" as your beloved Outrage-I boats. As I have mentioned previously - a Boston Whaler boat is a Boston Whaler boat - is a Boston Whaler boat - et.al. Unfortunatley, there are many members of your forum that disagree. ------ Jerry/Idaho

Jerry Townsend posted 07-12-2003 02:21 PM ET (US)
One thing I should have mentioned previously - I certainly agree that spelling out the word (Outrage - in this case) is most proper, most desireable and preferred. Frankly, being involved in a technical capacity most of my adult life, I have seen enough abbreviations and acronym - for all of us. But, at the same time, know that if an acronym is understood by the readers, the communication is effective - the principal purpose of all objective communication. ------- Jerry/Idaho
15ss posted 07-12-2003 04:40 PM ET (US)
i think this is all silly but....
jerry i think jim was saying or(outrage) is a classic name not a classic boat.
love the forum.
half shell posted 07-13-2003 10:06 PM ET (US)
I love the way the 150 Evinrude/Ficht performs on this boat.However the wot or so not to confuse or amuse anyone ,the wide open throttle rpms opps I mean revolutions per minute are only 4500 with the 15x17 aluminum prop.Damn I mean propeller.Any ideas on prop and rpm range Im all ears.
Regards Robert

Perry posted 07-13-2003 11:09 PM ET (US)
Nice one 1/2 shell, try going down an inch of diameter to a 14 X 17 and raise the motor a hole and see what happens.
aubv posted 07-14-2003 08:07 AM ET (US)
Half shell,
Good luck with the boat and hope you like it as much as we like ours. I will be very interested to hear your thoughts on the 17'OR vs a Montauk. We have a 130 HP Evinrude w/14-1/2" x 19" SS prop. Top speed is 42 MPH. Lake Tashmoo is our home port and I've gone to Nomans and Nantucket in ours. If you have any questions let me know.
half shell posted 07-16-2003 06:39 AM ET (US)
Thanks to all I will keep you posted and questions to follow Im sure.
Regards Bob

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Author	Topic: 17 OR [or What?]
half shell	posted 07-11-2003 07:28 PM ET (US) Hello I sold my montauk 2 weeks ago and today picked up my new to me 1998 17 OR w/150 Evinrude Ficht.I should have it cleaned and ready for a late afternoon trip to cuttyhunk tommorow. It appears the Ficht is a decent motor from the few rides I have taken on it. Regards Bob
whaler3	posted 07-11-2003 08:36 PM ET (US) Lots of luck with your new to you boat. I think you will like the ride and it will be very good on fuel. I have a 97 or with a 130 Yamaha and love the combo. It is fast and rides well. Let us know how you make out on your first trip with it WHALER3
jimh	posted 07-11-2003 09:29 PM ET (US) I get a laugh outta this thread. Bad enough we are using capital "OR" as a confusing abbreviation for OUTRAGE, now we are using lower case "or" as well. OR = Postal code for Oregon OR = Jargon for Operating Room or = a conjunction used to connect phrases Outrage = a classic Boston Whaler model name OUTRAGE = used in all caps on most boat decals I changed the TOPIC to reflect this confusion.
Jerry Townsend	posted 07-12-2003 01:35 AM ET (US) Come on Jimh - in my mind, as I have mentioned before, if the communication is understood by those involved, the communication is effective. The context of the forum is all important - if one is talking of beautiful ocean beach scenery, then OR is normally understood as meaning the Oregon Coast. And generally, the posts of the forum are addressing different designs including the Outrage series where the abbreviation OR would be appropriate. Further, the posts of the forum do not generally address operating rooms - so that connection is out of the ball park. I agree - the use of the lower case "or" throws a curve at all readers - and should be avoided - period!!!! That is just bad communication skills, bad writing - and well, bad everything. And you rang a pet peeve - again - the word Outrage is a name addressing a particular configuration of Boston Whaler Boats - from when they were introduced until the current - and not just your stated "classic" boats. I think the so-called Outrage-II boats are just as much "Outrage" as your beloved Outrage-I boats. As I have mentioned previously - a Boston Whaler boat is a Boston Whaler boat - is a Boston Whaler boat - et.al. Unfortunatley, there are many members of your forum that disagree. ------ Jerry/Idaho
Jerry Townsend	posted 07-12-2003 02:21 PM ET (US) One thing I should have mentioned previously - I certainly agree that spelling out the word (Outrage - in this case) is most proper, most desireable and preferred. Frankly, being involved in a technical capacity most of my adult life, I have seen enough abbreviations and acronym - for all of us. But, at the same time, know that if an acronym is understood by the readers, the communication is effective - the principal purpose of all objective communication. ------- Jerry/Idaho
15ss	posted 07-12-2003 04:40 PM ET (US) i think this is all silly but.... jerry i think jim was saying or(outrage) is a classic name not a classic boat. love the forum.
half shell	posted 07-13-2003 10:06 PM ET (US) I love the way the 150 Evinrude/Ficht performs on this boat.However the wot or so not to confuse or amuse anyone ,the wide open throttle rpms opps I mean revolutions per minute are only 4500 with the 15x17 aluminum prop.Damn I mean propeller.Any ideas on prop and rpm range Im all ears. Regards Robert
Perry	posted 07-13-2003 11:09 PM ET (US) Nice one 1/2 shell, try going down an inch of diameter to a 14 X 17 and raise the motor a hole and see what happens.
aubv	posted 07-14-2003 08:07 AM ET (US) Half shell, Good luck with the boat and hope you like it as much as we like ours. I will be very interested to hear your thoughts on the 17'OR vs a Montauk. We have a 130 HP Evinrude w/14-1/2" x 19" SS prop. Top speed is 42 MPH. Lake Tashmoo is our home port and I've gone to Nomans and Nantucket in ours. If you have any questions let me know.
half shell	posted 07-16-2003 06:39 AM ET (US) Thanks to all I will keep you posted and questions to follow Im sure. Regards Bob