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posted 07-12-2003 05:02 AM ET (US)
Does anyone have any experience in purchasing or riding in the new 190 Nantucket?
posted 07-13-2003 07:04 PM ET (US)
I asked the same question on another forum but have received no answer yet. I am strongly considering getting one and would love some feedback from somebody who has put some hours on one.
posted 07-13-2003 10:14 PM ET (US)
I read alot here, I don't recall of anyone rideing on one.
I don't think there has been many sold yet. I'm sure if you are strongly considering getting one your local dealer will take you to water test it first, right?
posted 07-13-2003 11:13 PM ET (US)
My neighbor just bought one. The first one in the State of Hawaii as a matter of fact. He has a 115 Mercury 4 stroke on it. I am curious as to how it perfoms but he just moved in and I don't know him well. Maybe I'll invite myself for a ride one of these days.
posted 07-14-2003 04:05 PM ET (US)
I find it surprising that noone on the entire site has riden in one of these...and we call ourselves fans?!?!?
posted 07-14-2003 06:43 PM ET (US)
If anyone is willing to sponsor me, I'd be more than happy to get one and write a comprehensive report.
posted 07-14-2003 08:35 PM ET (US)
I know that there is at least one lurker on this board that owns a Nantucket and operates out of Manasquan Inlet. C'mon Ron, get your buddy to give us a write up.
posted 07-15-2003 05:08 PM ET (US)
First of all, thank you for the 26 gallon Moeller tank for my 2003 170 Montauk (I named it "Courage" if you fish around Sandy Hook). I installed it this weekend and have been out driving around with it. If anyone wants details, or a picture of the install, let me know.
Secondly, yes, I have been out on the new Nantucket. My buddy's name is Alex and I just introduced him to this forum so hopefully he will post soon.
I went with Alex about five miles offshore out of Manasquan Inlet and up and down the Jersey coast last week in search of Stripers (Alex did land a 20lb + fish on a stretch 25+). We travelled about 25 miles in total. Let me say the boat is AWESOME! Alex has the 135 Optimax with the Smart Gauges. The ride is great and the boat is quick. More impressive than the ride and it's speed is it's ability to handle snotty or choppy confused seas. We were about 8 miles north of Manasquan about mid-afternoon drifting for Fluke and Sea Bass when we noticed a fresh stiff breeze picking up from the south. We decided to get out of there and had back to port. With a stiff wind in our faces and whitecaps all over the place, the Nantucket knifed through the waves on plane as we headed back home. We noticed that except for the big sportfisherman's we were the only small boat still out there (except for a Lund chugging along with four green fisherman that we passed on the way in).
Alex should be able to provide a lot more details, but the boat is a fishing machine. Dn't get me wrong, I love my Montauk, but the Nantucket is an impressive boat. The Optimax 135 will push the price up, but after the sleigh ride we went through last week the bigger engine is the way to go.
My name is Ron and it's good to meet you all. I'll get Alex to sign up shortly.
posted 07-15-2003 05:31 PM ET (US)
I have a Nantucket 190 w/ Merc Opti 135, Fishing package, and sun-top.
So far I love the boat. Top Speed in 1' chop was 42, on flat water I would expect to see 45+mph (RPMS read 5200 WOT). It goes up on plane well, I don't know how to spec it other than saying passengers have to hold on when I throttle forward for the hole-shot.
It handles very well. I've already had it out in nasty 3-4' foot messy seas w/ a 20mph cross wind for a 13mi return trip down part of the coast of NJ from Shrewsburry to Msqn,
I've had great fuel economy. I have been averaging over 4mpg...and once I was out of the break-in, I don't baby it too much. I regularly run at 4000 - 4500 RPMs. At about 3700 to 4000 RPMs (a sweet spot for fuel economy) it runs about 30 -35mph. The smartcraft guages are a great leap in technology over the old analog guages I had on my Grady. They provide lots of useful info: mpg, speed, trim angle, water pressure, engine temp, water temp, air temp, fuel used, etc. Time will tell if the wiz-bang technology holds up to the marine env. I don't like the idea of Merc keeping an electronic diary of my motor usage that I can't access...
I have had one deck screw break and the takle door open in rough seas, but other than that the boat is solid. Trim, throttle, and the sea conditions is always a balancing act, but I have not encountered conditions yet in the 8 outings, and 140miles that I've travelled that caused me grief.
I had a salt-water washdown plumbed off of the livewell pump, w/ a fitting placed under the starboard aft quater seat. It is a pretty simple mod, and works well, but it can't push a lot of water through a narrow coil boat hose.
I paid $35K for the above-mentioned rig, including the trailer. I condsider it a fair value.
posted 07-15-2003 05:43 PM ET (US)
Excellent! Thanks for your report.
posted 07-16-2003 08:58 AM ET (US)
How would you compare the stability when drifting of the 190 vs. your 2003 170? Also, did you feel the 190 was more roomy when fishing or comparable to your Montauk in terms of open space? I also have a 2003 170 and just saw a 190 for the first time last weekend. One thing I noticed is that it didn't appear there was any more fishing room than in my Montauk. If anything, it almost appeared that there would be less room for a cooler at the stern. Plus, I really enjoy fishing off the stern while sitting on the RPS with the seat in the most forward notch. This would not be posible on the 190 with the leaning post/live well. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks.
posted 07-16-2003 01:07 PM ET (US)
Stability wise, I really do not have an opinion one way or the other. On one hand the Nantucket has a wider beam, on the other hand the Nantucket has an "Outrage like" deeper V for blue water, plus the Nantucket is heavier. I'd say the drift stability is about the same or a little better on the Nantucket because of the wider beam.
As far as cockpit space, you are right, the space is about equal because the Montauk does not have some of the features that make the Nantucket a great fishing boat. The Nantucket has rod holders on the gunnel, under gunnel rod storage, storage under the leaning post and a live bait well. Having these extras more than makes up for any cockpit space sacrificed. Plus the two seats on the starboard and port aft quarters are useable if you chose to sit there. The starboard seat can be lifted and there is storage underneath while the port seat is also liftable, but is open underneath.
Hope that helps a bit.
posted 07-16-2003 04:14 PM ET (US)
Hey Ron, is the battery located under the starboard stern seat? Do you feel like the console has enough room for life jackets, emergency supplies, etc? Thanks.
posted 07-16-2003 05:48 PM ET (US)
I can store 2 lifevests + anchor w/ rhode, and dry bag w/ spare clothes and towel in the larger of the two bow compartments. The 2nd bow compartment can serve as a makeshift cooler for edibles and drinks, leaving the 54 qt igloo for fish,bait, and a gal of water.
The console is the same one as that on the 21' outrage. So yes, ample space is in the console. The battery box and switch are also in the lockable center console. An interesting tidbit according to the folks at BW is that the Nantucket can accomodate the Outrage's T-top and canvas. The backing plates are already there.
Hope this helps.
posted 07-16-2003 08:14 PM ET (US)
I was at a local whaler dealer a couple of days ago and got on a nantucket in the show room. I have a 1997 20'Outrage so was intrested in compareing the two boats. I think the nantucket feels like it has a lot of room to move around the console and found that where my boat has a 94 qt. cooler the nantucket has a 54 qt. I thought this was a good way to add space in the boat. The consoles on the newer whalers are much smaller than the one on my 97 model which I think would make it challenging to mount very many electronics on with out it looking busy. The salesman acted like he really wanted to sell me the boat even though I told him several times I was just looking at the new styles he even offered me 10,000 for my boat, I did not know if I wanted to laugh or cry at what he thought my boat was worth.
posted 07-21-2003 01:29 PM ET (US)
I wonder how well the Nantucket's bait well would work as a fish box? I like to have a cooler for water, food, etc. and one for the catch. I rarely use live bait and would find that space more useful as a fish box. I used to hold ice in my Montauk's anchor locker but I imagine there is not nearly as much insulation around this bait well. Have any of you new 190 owners considered/tried this? Thanks.
posted 07-21-2003 08:44 PM ET (US)
Hi guys, I have not posted here in a while. I own a M170 03 here in lauderdale. We equipped her for cruising and to fish. I had an aft bench seat made that comes out streches the full width and has back support made by company here in Fl that supplies BW with their cushions. I installed a dodger and a 4 pole bimini with eisenglass. I bought a 17gl Kodiac live well system and had the BW dealer have their aluminum sub make a support for it inorder that it would drain over the engine well and out the transom ( was a differewnce of 11" the transom was 14". A 22 gl would work bu thought it would oversize the boat.the well pump is attached to area near transducer for the Garmin 188C. The well lifts out easily so the bench seat can be installed in its place. I have not solved the fish storage problem yet (we should all have such problems!) We caught Blackfin to 30lbs our first time out and a 25lb dolphin the next time, we had to stop fishing then because the 54gt cooler did not hold the fish. I am debating which brand of fish bag to purchase cant believe how expensive they are. A 125qt I guess would fit across the aft beam but there goes your fishing area! A fish bag can be strapped to the rails or thrown forward. We bought the Montauk with a swing tounge Continental trailer with surge brakes fits into our garage, a real big plus.
posted 07-21-2003 08:57 PM ET (US)
also installed BW SS cleats at both aft quarter sections.
posted 07-22-2003 11:14 AM ET (US)
Yes, the Livewell can be used as a fish box. It is 15 Gallons, and the opening is about 1.25ft squarish. I don't know the interior dimensions, but I would guess that a 2ft fish could easily lay flat parallel to the sides. The livewell does have good height, so you could stack larger fish diagonally up and down. The livewell does have the distinct advantage of an overboard drain.
I sometimes use an insulated bait bucket under the removeable aft quater seat instead of the livewell, as this is in the shade and also near the action.
A Fishbag is another option as mentioned in the other posts regarding the montauk rig. I think Canyon Products make some good ones. Plenty of room in the bow for a fish bag.
posted 07-22-2003 11:36 AM ET (US)
Hi Chaimnet (?),
Glad to hear your catching big fish on your Montauk. I use my Nantucket up here in Jersey, and I would like to take it to FLA for the winter (Thanksgiving to Easter) and Fort Lauderdale is where I'd like to be. I would like to have the boat kept in dry storage, either on my trailer or on a lift/dry storage rack, and be able to call up and have it put in a slip and ready for me when I come down for the 4 or 5 times I can do it during the winter.
If I have to rent a slip and keep her in the water I will.
Do you have any advice as far as marina's or locations and points of contact to help me set something up? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
If you would be so kind as to send me an email, I would like to take this offline, as I don't think the group is that interested in my winter plans.
Tight lines and Thanks,
posted 08-08-2003 11:50 PM ET (US)
I have a Nantucket 190 which I took delivery on in May. I run it in the Barnegat Bay in NJ and in the Chesapeak Bay. Its powered by the 115 4-stroke. It is a phenominal boat. Mine also has the fishing package and sun top. It handles a 2'-3' chop without destroying your kidneys. I use it for fishing and swimming. After running with a 4-stroke, I would never run a 2-stroke. The 4-stroke is not available with smart craft guages. I'll report back on speed stats once I get the GPS installed.
posted 11-12-2003 03:41 PM ET (US)
To TG_19 and JM_190......Congrats on your Nancutkets! I'm sure that you are the envy of many.
One question I have for both of you: How is the ride at 5-10 knots? Is there much bow rise? Does it throw off a big wake? The reason I am asking is because I have a 16 Dauntless, and when navigating inland waterways with a speed limit, I often get yelled at for throwing off a large wake, even when going under the posted 7 knot speed limit. I have added weight to the bow to help the problem.
Thanks for your input!
posted 03-26-2004 09:46 AM ET (US)
Hello everyone, Fairly new...Had an old 20 Proline and blew out my back so I sold it..now its bettera dn decided to buy another CC. Finally settled on a Nantucket190! All the info Im reading is pretty great...I got the 1152carb because its faster out of the hole compared to the 4 stroke, actually the performance data shows the 115 gets the boat on plane as qucik as the 150optimax! so I got the 115..getting the live well, sunpack seat cusions etc...Ill run it in the Potomac River and Chesapeake Bay which usually has 1-2 chop good day. Ive heard nothing but good about this boat. Will get delivery in a few weeks...anyone got recommendations on bottom painting and depth finders/Fish finders with this boat??? Thanks "THe Yiddil"
posted 03-26-2004 09:53 AM ET (US)
posted 03-26-2004 11:03 AM ET (US)
I am in the market for some new cushions for my Dauntless 18 (1998). Would you mind sharing your contact for cushions?
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