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|Author||Topic: 23 Outrage|
posted 07-14-2003 12:25 AM ET (US)
I've been thinking alot lately about stepping up from the 170 Montauk. I had always been partial to 23 Sea Crafts or Regulators but have been leaning to the Whaler as of late, with the presence of a head serving as the breaking point. Does anyone know what kind of headroom there is in the head compartment. I need to know if this is a good place to store fishing rods. What would seem like a bonus to most is more of a necesity for me as my marina told me I had to oust my 8 foot dock box which houses my rods now. I wouldn't leave my rods out in the open and I don't think there is sufficient under deck storage for them on the 23.
Any feedback on the 23 Outrage is much appreciated.
posted 07-14-2003 08:06 AM ET (US)
You are correct there is no room to store fishing rods on the 23. If you break them down you can put them in the head. I looked at both of those boats before I purchased my BW 23. These were my deciding factors. Unsinkability, head, rear fold down transom seat, front sitting area, rear stern fishing area, extra storage space inside head, over-all ride of the whaler vs the others. I am planning on getting sunbrella covers made for the side bolsters that will snap to floor. I will store my rods behind this cover so they are not out in plain view.
posted 07-14-2003 11:43 AM ET (US)
I donít know the exact measurements but my wife is 5í tall and she can stand up in the console. I image the head room is about 5í3Ē. As im4bc said, if you break them down, you could put 20 rods in the console. One word of caution though, the console door has a lock, but it is no dead bolt. An easy flip of a screw driver could pop the door open. I guess that could be said of most hatches on any 23 foot boat.
One question for you guys though. They donít have Regulators and Sea Crafts out here in Nor Cal, how does the 23 Outrageís ride compare to their 23's?
posted 07-14-2003 07:12 PM ET (US)
Both hulls are very light. They are pure fishing boats, both are built solid. The regulator 23 as an optional power option of twin 200 yamaha hpdi's on a 3,800 pound hull. Guess what it flies 60-70 mph. If you have the money and are going to fish it 100% of the time get a regulator if you want an all around boat with unsinkability get a whaler. Sea crafts are just ok in my opinion. Not to much there in the fit and finish catagory.
posted 07-15-2003 12:19 AM ET (US)
The Sea Craft certainly has the most timeless design, it must date back to the sixties... They are much simpler and less flashy. The Regulator is an amazing boat, however with the addition of the 24 this year(with head, and an $80,000 price tag), the 23s will become hard to get your money back on soon enough.
posted 07-15-2003 08:49 AM ET (US)
My friend just sold his 1999 Sea Craft 23.' In four years he spent $18,000 repairing all sorts of problems - primarily electric and engine items. Not to mention the huge sticker price on a new Sea Craft. I did go offshore with him a number of times, and it does ride pretty nicely and is set up well for fishing. I personally think they cut corners when finishing that boat - there is exposed hardware, etc. Not that 23 Whalers are affordable to all - but I just dont think Sea Craft is building the same boat they did during the Potter years.
posted 07-15-2003 12:07 PM ET (US)
There is a dealer right doen the street from where I go boating and a friend of mine bought a leftover 2001 in 2002 for $45,000 with merc. power, not bad if you asked me.
posted 07-15-2003 06:31 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the input. Iíve heard so much about how great the Regulators, Contenders, Blue Waters and the like are. I donít know why there arenít any of those dealers in Northern California. Whalers are here in force though, especially the classics. It must be the unsinkability thing. The water temperature off our coast (north of San Francisco) ranges around 50 to 52 degrees most of the time. If you have the misfortune of going in the drink, you only have about two hours to live--If that long. Having a boat that wonít go down under you is quite a comforting thought in these parts. I guess a well stocked ditch bag wonít do you much good if you canít get rescued before you die of exposure. The only other way to beat the cold is to have everybody where survival suits or have a raft, but how can you realistically supply survival suits for all your passengers or make enough room to store a raft? The Whaler works for me and many others out here. Thatís really what sets Whaler apart.
More input about the 23 Outrage compared to Sea Craft and Regulators:
The 23 Outrage has more creature comforts that are nice to have. There is adequate seating to take you and four large friends in the slop even though the guy sitting in the front seat has a more exciting ride in rough seas. If your passengers donít mind being real close, you can seat seven. If you have female passengers the enclosed head is non-negotiable, you must have one and the 23 does. I even like the ďeuro transomĒ with swim platform. Although it isnít real popular on this site, it really comes in handy if you dive or want to swim off the boat and get back aboard easily. The transom door also makes it easy to board at the dock. Lastly, the 23 Outrage has high freeboard. That could be good or bad depending on your outlook. I like it because it is safer and dryer in rough water and it makes it very hard to fall overboard.
P.S. Arenít the waters off New England/Jersey/York cold as well?
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