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Jimm posted 07-18-2003 10:12 AM ET (US)   Profile for Jimm  
While drift fishing in my Montauk 170 I notice that my boat drifts a lot faster than the boats around me. Has anyone else noticed this and does anyone have any reasons for it. My 170 seems to drift faster than boats with more "sail" area such as small cuddy cabins and 19'20 center consoles.
jbtaz posted 07-18-2003 02:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for jbtaz  Send Email to jbtaz     
probably due to it being a rather shallow or flat hull as opposed to a deeper v hul which produces more drag in current.
James posted 07-18-2003 03:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     
Jimm:

Regarding the fast 170 drift, I noticed the same thing when drifting among other fishing boats. The fish in my area (especially the fluke) seem to love it. Another thing I noticed about the 170 is that it does not take-in water over the transom when drifting. Actually, when things get a little rough, few others choose to remain out there, unless they are 25-30+ feet long or another Whaler.

James.

jaccoserv posted 07-18-2003 07:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for jaccoserv  Send Email to jaccoserv     
10-4 on the drifting 170. I actually find myself steering the boat and driving it as if the engine was in gear, it can be kind of a pain.
Dick posted 07-18-2003 10:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
If you want to slow your drift down the cheapest way to do it is to attach a line to a bucket and toss it over the stern. The size of the bucket will determine how much you slow.

Dick

chaimemet posted 07-21-2003 09:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for chaimemet  Send Email to chaimemet     
Fishing out of lauderdale with a strong Northerly current and the Gulfstream. I was out on Friday and moving south in the stream at 4.5 knots I was standing still on a tread mill!!!! When we headed back west meandering on a blind troll we had drifted far north and had to beat back to PE in a hurry. The drift is really fast I bought a sea anchor so when we drift fish we will deploy it. I really could not believe how quickly we drifted thought it was the wax!!
diveorfish posted 07-22-2003 02:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for diveorfish  Send Email to diveorfish     
This “fast drift” propensity is not just restricted to Montauks. My 23 Outrage drifts faster as well. At first I thought I was just imagining things, but once I initially noticed this tendency, I started paying attention every time I was drift fishing. On three separate occasions, my boat was drifting faster than the other boats around me. Upon seeing this thread, I now think this must be a characteristic of, at least Post Classic, Whalers.

I don’t know the reason why, but I have a theory. I could be all wet on this one, but I think they drift faster because they are more buoyant than other boats and are relatively more out of the water when loaded with gas and gear. I was looking at a picture of a Seaswirl Stipper on the cover of their brochure. It was rigged with twins and there were a couple of guys at the stern catching a fish. Even in the picture, the boat looked so stern heavy that the water line was practically up to the swim platform. It certainly didn’t look like a good picture to put on a brochure. In my Whaler, I don’t care how much people/gear you put in it, the water line hardly changes and it jumps on plane easily.

Has anybody else noticed this characteristic and/or have an explanation for it?

AnthonyT posted 07-27-2003 11:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for AnthonyT  Send Email to AnthonyT     
Great news, I am not going crazy....

I noticed the same thing.... In some cases, it a good thing especially when drifting for fluke in very light winds. Usually though and especially when the masses are out fishing, it can be a problem. You are trying to drift in very close quarters with 20 other boats who are drifting in sync. then the 170 come flying through.

Drift sock to the rescue... I was already planning on throwing out a bucket this season to see if it made a difference, but I ran into a used drift sock at a garage sale... Bingo....

It works like a charm...

The reason/theory is pretty simple... the 170 doesn't have alot of hull in the water therefore the wind has a larger effect....

Hope this help ...

AnthonyT

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