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osillator posted 07-20-2003 10:43 PM ET (US)   Profile for osillator   Send Email to osillator  
I guess Whaler does listen! I had the oppurtunity to see 04 Montauks coming off the assembly line this week while in Florida. They have added big stainless cleats at the rear on both sides just under the rear most section of the rear side rail!

They have also added a new plastic mount on the front of the console to hold down the ice cooler. This eliminates the floor brackets under the cooler. If you remove the cooler the floor is clear and the mount on the console folds neatly out of the way. Nice improvement! The Nantucket has this feature also.

That is a beautiful sight to see Whalers coming down the assembly line. I was awestruck!

jim_usa posted 07-21-2003 10:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for jim_usa  Send Email to jim_usa     
Did they add a trolling motor plug and a swivel seat mount on the bow?
Jimm posted 07-21-2003 12:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jimm    
The cleats are a nice addition; now if BW could find room for a fish box of about 36/48 inches - I'd trade mine for one. I don't know if the new way of holding down the cooler is a good idea. I never remove mine and it's easy to clean under with a hose. Maybe with the new method you could substitute a larger 94 quart cooler. That would be a nice option. Anyone from B/W listening.

Hey, also BW people - if you get a bimini, you can't use the rod holders in front of the console due to height resrictions. It's also hard to use add on Perkos which attach to the railing due to the bimini and a boat cover. May I suggest attaching a two rod holder to the gunnels in front of the thwart seats.

chaimemet posted 07-21-2003 09:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for chaimemet  Send Email to chaimemet     
I bought Precision SS articulating rod holders four of them my bimini is made by a local canvas sub for the BW dealer here folds down ok the cylinders are on the outside side of the rails wheras the rails of the bimini are mounted on the inside of the rails.The Kodiac removable livewell has a 4 rod holder upright hanger mounted on it and when in use is just aft of the end of the bimini so height is solved the only time i could see using those front mounted ones is when the bimini is down or off the boat.
James posted 07-22-2003 11:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     
The owner of a 170 is storage-challenged. A factory installed design change that provides a small live bait well located under one of the rear steps would be a real help to those of us who fish.

This past spring I saw a young couple in a 170 fishing for stripers in Raritan Bay with an insulated cooler (similar in size to the RPS) mounted and secured on top of the RPS, sort of as a leaning post/storage area. I am not sure now, but I believe that I also saw a similar arrangement over the 72 Qt. console cooler. Very ingenious, because it provided significant additional fish and live bait storage and yet allowed full movement around the boat, as well as easy access to the anchor.

James.

fitn217 posted 07-29-2003 11:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for fitn217  Send Email to fitn217     
It's an igloo 94 qt marine cooler. I took off the seat and back rest cushions because I never sit while under way and my passengers who stood behind the rps had nothing to hold onto. I put one of those non slip cooler pads under the cooler and tied them to the swinging backrest bracket with plastic hooked punji cords from west marine 12" I think. The 94 Qt fits beautifully between the swinging backrest arms and along with the non slip pad it has yet to shift on me. It is very sturdy. This allows me to have a leaning post, a cooler to fit those big delicious bass, and storage if I'm not fishing. I've also turned the front 72 qt cooler into a livewell with an aerator, made by marine metal products, the one that comes with the cooler from cabela's. It keeps about a dozen full size bunker alive for half a day or more if you change the water once or twice. Not a bad aerator for the price.
James posted 07-30-2003 01:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     
fitn217:

Thanks for the information on your cooler arrangement. I also use a 94 Qt. Igloo marine cooler with the non-slip pad and the 12-inch bungee cords. However, I place this second cooler over the anchor well and secure it off the bow rail supports. I still like that set-up for drifting bunker, worms or eels and also for summer fluking because it still allows me to use the RPS under the Bimini. But I find my arrangement very uncomfortable whenever I need to anchor, such as for chunking in the spring or fall. Then, I have to slide the 94 Qt. cooler off the bow and place it next to the 72 Qt. console cooler (which I also use as a live-bait well). Getting around the bow area then becomes a clumsy arrangement at best. I think that I like your set-up better for stripers. This website is simply amazing.

James.

fitn217 posted 07-31-2003 05:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for fitn217  Send Email to fitn217     
No problem James, give that setup a shot you'll love it. The only problem I have now is storage space when I'm live baiting and catching fish, that console gets pretty small. But I have lately began BUNGEE cording some 5 gallon buckets on top of the two seats next to the engine. One is for my cast net and the other is for whatever I have laying around that can fit in a 5 gallon bucket. I used a bigger bungee and went from the rail to the water ski rope holder? on the outside of the transom. Just cruised to Jones Beach from Staten Island and they didn't budge.
Beaner posted 07-31-2003 09:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Beaner  Send Email to Beaner     

fitn217,

How was the trip from S.I. to Jones Beach in the Montauk? I'm from the GSB/Fire Island/Moriches area and have yet to take my new Montauk into the ocean (especially through Moriches Inlet). What were the conditions like and how did the boat perform?

In terms of storage, I have my 72 qt cooler packed with lamps, extra anchor line, soft fishing tackle binder, bait board, and misc tools. I always bring a 5 gallon bucket for bait/garbage, and a 48 Qt igloo marine cooler filled with ice (94 qt when bass fishing) and drinks. The coller goes flush against the seats/splash well. I keep a collapsable cooler in the 72 qt. If I do catch a fish that I decide to keep, I put ice/drinks in collapsable cooler and fish in 48/94. Lifejackets, oil, toolbox (lead, tools, firt aid, sunblock, extra plugs) throw cushion in console with room to spare. Anchor, chain and fenders in bow locker. Also use splash well and space around fuel tanks for more storage if needed. Usually bring waterproof Guy Cotton bag with cloths, foul weather gear, rags and chips. Bag goes on top of 72 Qt or on bow. This system works great for me even with wife and 2 kids on board. I never use live bait, so no need for a livewell. If I had to give up the 72 qt as storage space, I'd be in big trouble.

fitn217 posted 08-01-2003 12:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for fitn217  Send Email to fitn217     
Beaner,
The boat performed flawlessly. It was a calm day maybe 5 knot winds form the southeast and maybe a 1 foot chop over moderate ocean swells maybe 3 or 4 feet. I didn't have the boat fully trimmed out as it was a little uncomfortable. I trimmed the motor in just a hair, dropping the bow down a bit and it made the ride much more comfortable. The inlet was much easier than I had anticipated with the tide going out and everything smooth, smooth, smooth. The ride home was a different story with winds from the east at about 15 knots and the swells were about 6 feet with the occasional 7 or 8 footer. THE wind 3foot chop was directly at our backs and the ocean swells were quartering from aft and port side. We were in a following sea so it wasn't too bad as long as you work the throttle you are okay. It was a great Montauk sleigh ride.
Storage is pretty much different for everyone. I do find that I'm constantly rearranging things though. I like to keep my deck clean and unobstructed so I usually put a 48 qt cooler on top of the 72 qt in front of the cooler if I need more storage, sometimes my tackle box goes there as well.....BUNGEE cords what would I do without them?
In case anyone was wondering I traveled ABOUT 81 miles and used ABOUT 28 and a quarter gallons. I never went over 4000 rpms. The ride home was mostly at 3000 rpms. I figure I got about 2.86 mpg with 2 adults one 11 year old kid and camping gear and food and drink for three.

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