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posted 08-21-2003 12:35 PM ET (US)
This is a great forum. So many good ideas and alot of professional answers to the questions.
I posted a link to some pics that I took of my 170 that I now own approx 9 months. I just love her.
The motor ( a 90HP 2-stroke Merc) has given me some trouble in the past. On my second time out it only ran on 2 cylinders instead of 3. The dealer fixed it but at times it feels like it could break down again. It's also very difficult to start the engine unless it's warm. I also experience alot of vibrations but most people tell that all 2-stroke engines vibrate alot. This is probably true but I have been in other boats running 2-stroke engines that do not vibrate as much as mine. Nevertheless I'm pleased with my rig.
On the pics you will notice that I placed a second cooler (igloo 72) in the back of the boat. It's sitting in a self made stainless steel support that rests on the floor. It raises the cooler approx. 3" above the bilge cover. The cooler is fixed to the support and to 2 stainless steel brackets screwed to the back. Using the standard straps that came along with the cooler the whole setup is fixed into place and is easily removed when not needed. (although I almost never remove it because the extra storage space has spoiled me). The main reason for putting in the cooler was to get rid of the battery I use for my Minn Kota backtrolling motor and also to sit on it while backtrolling. You will also see the bracket attached to the transom where I mount the trolling motor.
I use the boat for all kinds of fishing, both at sea as well as in fresh water. It's the ultimate allround fishing boat.
If anyone is interested I will be happy to share more information (drawings and more pics) concerning the Cooler Carrier or the Trolling Motor bracket. just send me an e- mail at this address: firstname.lastname@example.org
Oh, and BTW, you guys are lucky you live in the USA because the price of a new BW 170 is about 30% higher over here.
posted 08-21-2003 06:51 PM ET (US)
Erik, Thanks for posting the pictures. Jim
posted 08-22-2003 11:58 AM ET (US)
I'll post some more in the near future showing the graphics on the sides and also the trailer I'm using.
The EZ-loader trailer you get with the package deal is not allowed to be used on the roads here in Europe. Anyone buying the 170 M needs to buy a new trailer with breaks. You can litteraly give the EZ loader away.
Taking this into account a new 170 M costing 30% more than in the States as well a the price of a new trailer will bring the total price up to approx 30,000 USD. ! (this is still relatively inexpensive compared to other, larger BW boats)
posted 08-22-2003 01:57 PM ET (US)
Welcome to the forum!
Just out of curiosity, is the *only* problem with the EZ-Loader trailer the fact that it doesn't have brakes?
If so, I would think it would be less expensive to add brakes than to go to another trailer altogether. I have an EZ-Loader trailer for my Outrage 22 and have made quite a few modifications to it, so I am familiar with the parts that are available both from EZ-Loader and from other vendors, that will work with an EZ-Loader trailer, brakes included.
I recognize that your being in Europe changes the equations in terms of ease and cost of obtaining American-made parts, but adding brakes to a single-axle trailer should not be an overwhelming project, even then.
posted 08-22-2003 02:08 PM ET (US)
I've seen the trailers in Europe and compared to ours they are twice the trailer. Autoban speeds require much better equipment AND tires than what is legal here in the States.
You don't even see rust on the trailers over there. I guess once they start showing rust, it's like a red flag to the cops there.
posted 08-22-2003 03:15 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the welcome John.
Concerning the EZ loader trailer:
First of all the max. towing (pulling) load without brakes over here = 700 kg (1540 lbs). This is including the weight of the trailer itself. A 170 M with a 90 Merc 2-stroke weighs approx. 815 kg (1790 lbs). A 4-stroke engine will weigh even more. With a trailer you easily exceed 1100kg (2420 lbs). So bye bye EZ loader (the one in the package deal I mean)
You are right when you say that it's not all that difficult to add brakes to the trailer and much less expensive than buying a new trailer. The only thing, is that you have to have your trailer checked every two years at an official inspection organisation when you have a trailer with brakes. Manufacturers of cars, trucks ,trailers .... must supply a document of conformity whenever they deliver and sell a vehicle. A self modified trailer, for example, is not conform to it's conformity document. BTW, EZ loader doesn't even deliver such a document on any of their trailers. So you now know why they are given away here at hilarious prices...oh, there are ways to get such a document but EZ loader USA doesn't put their name on it...and if ever one should have a serious accident the insurance companies will surely investigate in detail...It's just not worth it !
HAPPYJIM is right when he says the trailers in Europe are twice what the trailers in the States are. To be honest, the first time I saw my boat at the dealers, loaded on the EZ loader, I thought : how on earth can this trailer carry such a boat. It looks way too small. This of course was a first impression. I don't doubt that they certainly will carry the boat even on rough roads.
I have a RIBA BV1600. It can carry a boat weighing 1200 kg (2640 lbs). I aggree if you say it's a bit oversized but I bought it second hand at a reasonable price. A Riba BV1400 would be the perfect trailer for my boat over here.
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