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Whalen posted 10-02-2003 02:29 PM ET (US)   Profile for Whalen  
I have just parked an 04 170 90-2S in the driveway! Lovely boat. Now for some very carefull breaking in on the Potomac river. Any one have suggestions for getting finder/radio wires thru the top of console? I hate to drill a hole thru it. But it looks like one hole with grommet will have to happen. I sure have learned alot already by lurking around this site! My first post!
Knot at Work posted 10-02-2003 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     
Welcome aboard.

You will LOVE this boat.

I have a couple of recommendations for you.

1. Get a few 5 gallon buckets from HD or Lowes. Great for storing gear in. I am gonna convert on to a live well.

2. Get a couple of 12 inch bungi cords. Use them to wrap around the Bimini when stowing under a cover.

3. Get the Garmin 188 drill the hole left side center console and fill with silicone.

4. VENT the TANKS.... they will overfill if you do not. Better yet Fill them before you go out that way they dont sit and expand.

5. Buy some clear or white souled shoes.

6. Turn the 72 QT cooler around and use it for primary storage.

7. Buy a SPARE tire for your trailer.

8. IF your 90hp comes with a female end water flush.. (my 4 stroke does) be careful and remove the cowling and look inside when screwing it in. It is plastic and can come out and twist causing no water to eject and casue serious problems for your boat!

9. Enjoy it!!!!


Knot at Work posted 10-02-2003 03:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     
Sorry 188 Garmin drill the hole on the RIGHT side top of center console.

[Please give athwartship directions in terms of PORT or STARBOARD--jimh.]

Marlin posted 10-02-2003 03:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marlin  Send Email to Marlin     

I hated to drill my console for my GPS and fishfinder on my 160 Dauntless, especially since the Garmin FF80 has such a darn big plug on the end of the cable. When I finally got up the nerve, I used a hole saw to put a 1-1/8 or 1-1/4 hole through, then I covered it with a nice piece of mahoghany to mount the electronics on. The wood block is routed out on the bottom to allow the cables to exit underneath towards the front of the boat. Between the mahoghany and the console is a sheet of gasket material, with only a tiny slit for the cabling to go through; it's attached with liberal amounts of sealant to the console top and the wood on either side.

There's a picture or two of the setup at my picture gallery.

Where will you be running out of on the Potomac? I usually use Pohick Bay VA, just south of Mount Vernon. Park's been in bad shape after Isabel...


Goosedog posted 10-02-2003 04:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Goosedog    
Knot, do you vent the tanks when not in use? I feel like I'm losing alot of gas between trips. Thanks.

Whalen, congrats. You will love it.

Whalen posted 10-02-2003 06:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalen    
You guys are great! I have a 24 Gallon Pate on the boat, I would have prefered a 27, But the dealer included it in the deal. I will be breaking it in in the upper Potomac (fresh) up near Hagerstown Maryland. I cannot figure out the cooler seat/rodholder situation, the reels and the seatback cushion want to be in the same place. I have alot of work setting it up, but first the break in. The dealer wants me to double oil the entire fuel tank, I decided to double oil 20 gallons. Should do it. I want to be running 50 to 1 when fishing, less fouling and easier starting. I have questions about proper trailer position for launch and recover, it looks like I want to keep the rear bunks just a couple of inches under the water. Any thoughts?
Knot at Work posted 10-02-2003 07:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     
Goose Dog - I have the two 6.6 Gallon tanks.. I filled them the first time and left them vented under my cover.. the next weekend the fuel leaked out and was all over my deck....

Next time I filled the tanks and CLOSED the vents... Same thing only Gas smell was worse...

Thought I was over filling....

Next time I put NO gas in after my day on the water no problems... Can't figure out the best way to apporach that... Any others have a good idea?

Whalen -

the Pate!! You lucky dog! Nice option I will get one next year.

Trailering... okay tricky cause the trailer is narrow and the fenders are close...

Off Trailer: I followed Tobasco's advice and put the bumpers just into the water the Boat will float off...
On Trailer - Submerge trailer till bumpers are wet and front (trailer hitch side) are barely sticking out. That shoudl be good for a average incline and then becareful coming out that you are inside the fenders.

As for the fishing cushion rod holders, I take ALL cushions off when going fishing.

[Bumpers = Fenders?--jimh]

Barney posted 10-02-2003 08:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barney  Send Email to Barney     
Whalen, Welcome to the club. Jim
jimh posted 10-02-2003 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
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Knot at Work posted 10-03-2003 09:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     

good catch!

I meant Bunkers.. or the damn things the boat sits on!

Thansk for the re calibration.


sportroyalwulf posted 10-03-2003 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for sportroyalwulf  Send Email to sportroyalwulf     
Had a similar gas fume problem with my 150 sport. The fuel line bulb and connection was bad. Dealer replaced and solved the fume problem
Bigshot posted 10-03-2003 11:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Vents should ALWAYS be open unless inside your car.

Pate tanks vent themselves. the first 24 gallons 50:1. It is a lot easier to measure 2 qts to 24 gallons. When you get low and are at the alloted time frame, just fill up the tank with straight gas. With a 90 2 stroke, that 24 gallons won't last that long. If you need to do 10 hours at double mixture, you will need to do more than 1 tank.

Goosedog posted 10-03-2003 12:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Goosedog    
Bigshot, thanks for the vent answer.

Whalen, I would love to see pics of the 24. I'm considering an upgrade and have seen the fit of the 27 here, but I don't think I've seen the 24. Thanks.

Whalen posted 10-03-2003 07:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalen    
I will try to post a picture of the 24 soon. I have seen pictures of the 27 and they are alike. Just enough room above the tank to sqeese in two orange like jackets and the stow cushion. But, I sure would like a 27, or, A nice 4" deep hatch the width of the seat would be great. I was out in some windy frosty weather putting the first two hours on the 2 stroke. First hour between 3200 and 3700. Was nice and peacefull. But that second hour! 4200 to 4700 with a run at full throttle every ten minutes. I must say it was faster than I really wanted to go. Really is sweet between 4000 and 5000. The boat pops up on plane like a cork.
I had a twenty MPH wind and small close together white Caps (deep Potomac river section in Maryland mountains). The boat ate them up and made a kind of rythmic
washboard sound. I popped it right off the trailer at the launch, and for the retrieve the up river wind allowed me to just gently pull the boat onto the trailer with the docking rope on the bow. I was not looking forward to driving onto the trailer under power in a 6 MPH current by myself for my first time out. By the way, I used 7 Gallons of gas and covered 20 miles of river (2 hrs run time). I am trying to get a feel for consumption at crusing speeds in the Chesapeake bay. I think that the 24 Gal Tank is marginal for chasing breaking rockfish. Sorry for the long post, but I got a lot of new and interesting stimuli today. All I can say is they call it puppy love!!
Rich M posted 10-10-2003 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rich M  Send Email to Rich M     
I didn't use grommets or silicone for my console electronics wires. I used stainless steel clam shell vents angled so that any water would drain over and away from the hole. They look sharp and allow an easy swap if anything gets replaced or needs service. I've been in a driving rain and they do not leak at all.

As for the gas smell, are you topping off the tanks when you fill them? They require 10% open space in the tank to allow for expansion. That is why they are 6.6 gallons, the .6 is your expansion and they should only be filled with 6.0 gallons of fuel. Always leave the vents cracked as the tanks will contract as well as expand and the sight gauge seals will be damaged if the vents are closed.

Rich M

Knot at Work posted 10-10-2003 10:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     
Jimh, I am truly EMBARRASSED as a nautical professional of the Sea aboard US Naval Vessels from a 300 foot frigate to a 1100 ft Aircraft Carrier on which I was a Officer of the Deck , I do apologize for my oversight.....



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