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mcnaughts posted 11-29-2003 04:47 AM ET (US)   Profile for mcnaughts   Send Email to mcnaughts  
I am contemplating buying a "new" WA that has come up for sale in our marina. The manufacturers plate refers to it as a 25' widebeam and from some investigation seems to be manufactured between 1989 and 1992. It looks very similar to the 27' WA (Axiom) featured on page 29. Information on this boat seems limited so if anybody could enlighten me, it would be really appreciated. She has recently been re-powered with 2 x Honda 130hp 4-strokes and seems in fairly good nic. The asking price is US$33 000.
a. Is this boat adequately powered
b. Is the asking price realistic (all fishing gear incl)
c. Any other info regarding hull design, performance, comfort, stability etc. will be welcomed.

Thanks.

gimcrack225 posted 11-29-2003 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for gimcrack225    
Welcome

I'm sure you will get lots of information on Walkarounds from members of this site. There are lots of posts concerning Walkarounds that you can find with the search feature.
I have a 21'WA with a 225HP Johnson. The 21'WA weighs 2600lbs.

The 1991 catalog lists the 25'WA as having a 9'6" beam. The 21'WA and the 23'WA both have 8'6" beams. The 27'WA has a beam of 10'0". I have heard, but I'm not certain, that 8'6" beam is the maximum width for trailers without a special permit. Perhaps that is what "wide beam" refers to.

Further, the catalog lists a maximum of 550HP amd a minimum of 300HP*. *Minimum horsepower to plane satisfactorily with light load. Boat weight: 4600 lbs, Max. Load capacity (persons, motor and gear) 4200lbs, Draft 18", fuel capacity 250 gallons. What does the manufacturer's plate say concerning HP?


On the face of it the hull appears underpowered. Its a ton more than my 21'. I wonder how the boat gets onto a plane with 250 gallons of gasoline and a crew? Its a big boat...

I don't know a lot about engines or how to compare the performance of 2 strokes to 4 strokes. I have never been one to want the biggest power I can get but I have been convinced that its not a good idea to install small motors and force them to run at their maximum.
Good luck
Karl

gimcrack225 posted 11-29-2003 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for gimcrack225    
I forgot to say - The walkarounds are super boats. Sharp clean lines, well designed and of superior craftsmanship. The 21' has a nice deep-vee ride. I would expect the same or better from the bigger ones. Would you be tooling around in the Gulf of Aden with this baby?
mcnaughts posted 11-29-2003 12:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for mcnaughts  Send Email to mcnaughts     
Karl, thanks very much for the info. The owner is currently out of town but I will schedule a sea trial with him in the next week or two and will let you know re. the performance etc. Hopefully he knows a bit about the boat as well.

Will be using it off the Dubai coast in the Gulf about 400 miles SE of Kuwait. As I am a Canadian resident, I will probably bring her back to Vancouver when I return and do some fishing and whale watching up that way in the future.

Take care, Wayne.

lhg posted 12-02-2003 05:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The 25 Walkaround is one of Dougherty's last designs, and very similar to the 27 hull. But I would not buy that boat assuming you will keep the 130 Hondas. They are simply NOT enough HP for the boat, and you will regret the purchase. Whoever powered the boat that way didn't know what they were doing, and this is probably the reason it is being sold. Minimum recommended HP for that boat would be a pair of 200's, with 225's your best option.

If you buy the boat, factor in the cost of upgrading to V-6's.

hooter posted 12-04-2003 02:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for hooter    
Offer the guy $20,000 withOUT those little toys on the back. He was proud enough to buy the things, so mebbe he'll want to keep 'em and sell 'em him self. Properly repowered as lhg suggests, you'd still wind up in the rig at about $40,000 with new power, which sounds about right. Any other deal will leave you holdin' part o' the bag for the seller's poor motor decision. Center a couple 20mm machine guns fore and aft and plop you a couple torpedo launchers on the sides o' that baby, and you'll be dressed propper for duty off shore Kuwait. Good luck.
Backlash posted 12-05-2003 08:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
Wayne,
I agree with Larry and Hooter...this boat is seriously underpowered. I remember seeing a beautiful new 25 Walkaround in the Bahamas in 1993, "Gulf Runner", with full tower and twin 250 Yamahas...THAT was a boat!
Steve
doobee posted 12-08-2003 12:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for doobee  Send Email to doobee     
I've spent a lot of time on wide beam 25 with a tower and twin 250 Yamahas. The boat was lively with that power, but it has to be a dog with half as much HP.

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