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Topic: Outrage 19
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Irish Whaler |
posted 12-29-2003 05:59 AM ET (US)
I have just recently purchased an Outrage 19 but the user manual seems to be very generic with generla information on the Outrage series and handling tips. Is there a specific manual for the Outrage 19 which woudl give me details on maintenance etc. Thanks and Happy New Year to all.
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Swellmonster
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posted 12-29-2003 08:46 AM ET (US)
What year, motor HP.... |
Irish Whaler
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posted 12-29-2003 10:45 AM ET (US)
1996 Outrage 19 200HP Yamaha Saltwater Series presumably same year Has not been used a lot and the engine looks very clean |
HatterasJack
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posted 12-30-2003 02:14 PM ET (US)
Guys,I'm considering th purchase of a 2000 Outrage 18' with 150 HP Yamaha Saltwater Series. So, I'd appreciate knowing what you paid for yours Irish. I'd also appreciate any info regarding the boat in general. |
RonB
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posted 01-06-2004 04:31 PM ET (US)
HatterasJack,I have the boat you mentioned and replied to you under separate cover. If you decide to purchase the 2000 18 Outrage you will not be disappointed. Ron |
Holy Cow
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posted 01-06-2004 05:15 PM ET (US)
Hatteras Jack! Are you affiliated with the B. and T. called Hatteras Jacks in Rodanthe, H.I.? HC |
Holy Cow
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posted 01-06-2004 05:24 PM ET (US)
HJ! This is the fella who picked up the 6600 C5 on the 30th of December from you! Yeap! I was out 5 miles off the water tower and Jennettes Pier and watched a light blue 18 foot Outrage walk the dog over 2-3 foot waves and all I could do in my 170 Montauk was do 3000 -3500 rpms with a four 90 Merc, but in no way could I keep up with that 18 outrage as he was walking over those waves like they weren't even there! I just called my BW dealer for a possible trade up! The 170 Montauk works great with the 1-2 and occassioanl 2 and 1/2 foot chop, but in no way could she stand on top of those 2 and 1/2 to 3 footers! Do all the OUTRAGES have this capacity to chine walk the chop? Thanks! HC |
prm1177
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posted 01-07-2004 01:22 PM ET (US)
I contacted BW about their owners manuals for the late 90's boats (I have an OR II 17) and the generic manuals are all they have. It's pretty lame as there are specifics about each boat (rigging, fuel lines, etc) that should be covered for normal maintenance and use.I did download the drawings and schematics, and these were a bit more helpful. |
HatterasJack
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posted 01-07-2004 03:34 PM ET (US)
No Holy Cow . . . mere conincidence. Though I do know of HJ's on HI.Your description and observations of that 18' OR are pretty positive and it sounds like your were impressed with it's white water capabilities. Thanks for sharing that. You did confirm for me that a 17' Montauk is probably not the boat for me (since I was thinking about down sizing my plans a tad). But, I'm still undecided. Haven't been into boating for some time now, though I vividly remember that age old saying "2 best times in boat ownership are the day you buy it and the day you sell it". Hopefully, there will be additional postings on this thread to move me one way or the other on this purchase. Thanks |
Holy Cow
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posted 01-07-2004 05:30 PM ET (US)
HJ... The 17 Montauk is 950 pounds and is completely different to the newer 2002 and 2003 170 Montauk which weighs in at 1440 pounds dry! Please let me know if you find another 2000 18 Outrage? dugan@delanet.com I am assumming it is a 2500 pound vessel! HC Dimensions & History DIMENSIONS (from 2002 Specification Sheet) Length......................17 feet Beam........................6 feet 10 inches Draft.......................9 inches (with engine tilted clear of water) Dead rise at transom........16 degrees Cockpit Depth...............19 inches Weight......................1440 pounds dry, no engine Maximum Weight .............1650 pounds Swamped Capacity............3400 pounds Persons Capacity............7 people Maximum horsepower..........90 HP Minimum Horsepower..........60 HP Fuel Capacity...............13.2 gallon (two 6.6 gallon external tanks) Transom Height..............20 inches Bridge Clearance............4 feet 7 inches HISTORY Designer....................Boston Whaler First year offered..........2002 Last year offered...........TBA Color.......................2002 Whaler White M.S.R.P.....................$ 17,655 Introductory Price which includes Mercury 2-Stroke 90-HP ELPTO engine, E-Z Loader galvanized trailer Engineering Changes.........Hulls made after 07/12/2002 incorporate embedded plywood in the transom for the purpose of reinforcing a mount for an auxillary outboard engine bracket. EQUIPMENT Standard .....DECK/COCKPIT: Bow locker with fiberglass cover and overboard drain; Bow and stern lifting eyes; Welded 316L stainless steel bow rail and side rails; Heavy-duty rub rail; 8-in stainless steel bow cleat; molded-in port and starboard boarding steps. CONSOLE: Stainless steel steering wheel; electric horn; electrical switch panel; welded 316L stainless steel grab rail; acrylic windshield; access door; binnacle control; drink holders (2). SEATING: Reversible pilot seat with locking backrest. MECHANICAL: Teleflex no-feedback steering; classic style navigation lights; battery box with hold-down strap in console; Mercury-TM pre-rig; 90 ELPTO Mercury engine; bilge pump with float switch; 6.6 gallon fuel tanks (2) with hold- down straps. GALVANIZED TRAILER E-Z LOADER: Trailer jack; tie-downs; winch with nylon strap. Notable options... Swim platform with hand rail and stainless steel telescoping ladder ($ 256); Striping and graphics (red or blue); 60 ELPTO Bigfoot 4-stroke Mercury engine ($ 1,122); 90 ELPTO 4-stroke Mercury engine ($ 2,308); Drum brakes and flush kit for trailer ($ 577). FISHING PACKAGE: ($ 660) Tackle drawers; compass; 72-quart cooler seat with cushions and backrest; console mounted rod holders (4). COMFORT PACKAGE: ($ 641) 72-quart cooler seat with cushion and backrest; bow cushion. CANVAS: Sun-top with boot (red or blue) and stainless steel fittings ($ 822); Gray console cover ( $201); Gray reversible pilot seat cover ($ 192).
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RonB
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posted 01-07-2004 05:42 PM ET (US)
HC,You are right the 2000 18 Outrage is a 2500lb vessel (minus the engine). Please keep that in mind when towing should you purchase one. Mine, which is in my driveway until the spring, with the 135 Opti, the 1200lb dual axle trailer and a full 90 gallons of fuel (for winterization)is getting close to the maximum towing capacity of my vehicle (5000 lbs). I keep my Outrage in a marina so other than bringing it to the marina and taking it home at the end of the season it is not a big deal. If I wanted to travel farther with my Outrage I think I would have to purchase a bigger tow vehicle. FYI, I tow it with a 2003 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 QuadCab with a V-6. RonB |
Holy Cow
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posted 01-07-2004 06:14 PM ET (US)
Just Great! Seems to me that the extra weight and double haul chine design makes the 18 OR work! Are the other year 18 ORs' as sea worthy? What other Whalers are there that give you this great ability and are still be within the 18 to 20 foot mark? Is thew Dauntless as good of a wave walker? Love it! HC |
Holy Cow
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posted 01-07-2004 10:56 PM ET (US)
The hull of the 18-Outrage is a modified vee-hull shape that evolved from the original twin sponson designs of the earlier hulls. This vee-hull form evolved over the years, benefiting from several earlier iterations whose seakeeping was not as successful. The evolution proceeded along these lines: As the length and beam of the hull increased, the enormous lateral stability of the twin sponson design of the 13-foot hull was no longer a necessity; thus the central hull grew into a moderate vee-hull design, while the twin sponsons shrunk, becoming only vestigial runners. The hull shape retained the refined bow lines with the classic "smirk" (formed by carrying the line of the runners up and across the bow). The resulting Outrage-18 hull was able to provide excellent lateral stability, but offered much improved ride in waves and chop compared with the 17-foot hull. The 18-Outrage was designed for operating in big waves and big water, to be able to go offshore and fish in the ocean.For a boat to be successful for offshore fishing, it must be wide and stable enough to provide a platform that resists rolling uncomfortably while drifting or trolling, yet be capable of travelling at planning speeds through moderate waves without a harsh ride. The 18-Outrage met these requirements perfectly. Also, its hull-form proved to be extremely stable in a following sea, a situation frequently encountered when running back to the harbor from ocean fishing. And a final plus, the hull was still relatively lightweight and easily planed, so good performance could be obtained without excessive horsepower on the transom. From the continuousWave --> Whaler --> Reference --> 18-Outrage The 18-Outrage 1981-1990 |