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cape_rover posted 12-29-2003 01:32 PM ET (US)   Profile for cape_rover   Send Email to cape_rover  
Does anyone know the font characteristics (style, size, bold, etc) of the "Boston" and "Whaler" words in the harpoon logo?
jaccoserv posted 12-29-2003 02:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for jaccoserv  Send Email to jaccoserv     
This logo was drawn by hand in the fifties I believe... long before true-type fonts were even a thought.
Tom W Clark posted 12-29-2003 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
They're also different on each side of the hull.
kglinz posted 12-29-2003 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
I don't know the font, but any sign shop can match it to something in their computer. They will match it to a vertical font, then can add any angle to match the Whaler angle by tilting it right or left.
MantyMonty posted 12-29-2003 05:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for MantyMonty  Send Email to MantyMonty     
I recently had numbers and letters made for my registration on my 170 montauk, and they are quite close to block style. I took some close-up digital pictures of the logos, and brought them to a local sign/awning company. The employee matched the letter style, then tipped and stretched them in the correct direction and printed them on a sheet for application. The total price including a squeegee, was around 16.00 for the pair of registration numbers.
jimh posted 12-29-2003 11:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
To my typographic eye--not the best--you can closely match the typeface of the Boston Whaler logotype using fonts in the HELVETICA family. The HELVETICA NEUE family comes pretty close.

The type in the forum's logo (above) is derived from those faces. It looks vaguely similar to the Boston Whaler logo, or so I have been told.

I have about 75 different Postscript typefaces in the Helvetica family. I don't think you can recreate all of them with a single true-type face.

Re True-Type: these fonts were a low-quality competitor to Postscript. They were developed by Apple and later adopted by Microsoft. Apple developed them to give themselves some leverage with Adobe, but eventually I think Apple gave up and went with Adobe and their much better Postscript fonts. Apple now uses PDF as the basis for their display technology, which is an offshoot of Display Postscript

cape_rover posted 01-07-2004 12:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
From an email I received from Whaler:

"... there is no set Font, this is a custom design"

erik selis posted 01-07-2004 01:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
The font used for the name of my boat strongly resembles the font used on the side for the model name "170 Montauk"

The font type is: Brush Script Connected

The color is (red):
R=168
G=43
B=60

Erik

Moe posted 01-07-2004 05:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
As provided by Microsoft, Helvetica is a bitmap font, not TrueType. MS users can acquire Neue Helvetica™ and other fonts here:

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/neue-helvetica/

--
Moe

jimh posted 01-07-2004 08:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
No way in the world the typeface in the Whaler logotype is a script font. It is a sans serif font, and is very similar to certain members of the Helvetica family.

Hand drawn typefaces in logotypes are quite common.

I believe the Boston Whaler logo can be quite nicely matched with faces from the Helvetica family. On the starboard side the type is italic; on the port side the type is reverse-italic. When I say the "Helvetica family" I don't mean some freebie bit-map computer graphic low resolution screen font you got with your operating system for free. I mean a real typeface, like you can get from Adobe or other type foundries in postscript format.

erik selis posted 01-08-2004 04:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Jim, I agree with you for the Whaler logo itself.
The model name on the side of the boat is a different story.
Erik
erik selis posted 01-08-2004 04:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Check out this link. It's nice to play around with.

http://www.boatus.net/boatgraphic/lettering.asp#theImage

Erik

jimh posted 01-08-2004 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Erik--Gotcha. Yes, the new style model name is no longer in sans-serif type. Thanks!

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