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WT posted 02-28-2004 11:43 PM ET (US)
I also would like to thank everyone on this site. You guys have been a wealth of information.
Today I picked up my new Montauk with the 90hp 4 stroke, swim platform, Pate 24 gallon tank and fishing package.
I too am going to remove my bow rail to install a trolling motor next week.
WT
erik selis posted 02-29-2004 06:45 AM ET (US)
WT,
Congrads to you as well.
It looks like the sales of the 170 Montauk is doing really well and I'm glad to hear that ! It's a fantastic boat and I'm sure you will spend many wonderful moments in it.
I wish you all the best with your new baby and look forward to seeing pictures.
Erik
divefan posted 02-29-2004 08:27 PM ET (US)
WT: Congrats to you and good luck. I had the shop take off all the rails before I took delivery. They did a great job. I was told you have to be careful you don't take off any gelcoat when you remove the screws. It needs to be sprayed with some kind of solvent that loosens the goop they put in the screw holes. I just had them put the stock screws back in with some silicone. Looks like a stock factory job. It is so much sleeker with no railing at all. IMHO it looks like too cool. Let's hear how you make out.
WT posted 02-29-2004 10:13 PM ET (US)
Divefan:
I'm bummed. My BW dealer would not take the bow rail off for me. He warned me about tearing up the gel coat.
I hope my marine electronics installer know what he is doing.
WT
jimh posted 02-29-2004 10:34 PM ET (US)
Call the factory and find out what bedding adhesive/sealer is used in the rail mounting. They probably used a solvent to loosen it. Whaler has used an adhesive BOSTIK 902 (I think) for bedding things like that. Check with them to see what they recommend.
If they used 3M-5200 there is now a solvent for that.
It would be fun to see a nice digital image of your bow-rail-less 170 MONTAUK in my email inbox.
divefan posted 03-01-2004 01:29 AM ET (US)
jimh is correct. I remember the rigger saying something exactly like that. If you use the proper solvent it will take it off and break the bond so the gelcoat will not stick and breakup when you release it. You won't see a thing. They did a great job on mine. You can't even tell that there was anything there except for the screws. The screws don't bother me at all. BW does such a nice job of putting in the screws without leaving sharp edging on the cross on the head that they are just real smooth. It's no problem just to put them back in using a little silicone. Just let the solvent work in and be patient. Do not rush the job and you should do fine.
Sorry he wouldn't do it for you. I guess every dealer has a different point of view on how to handle things.
WT posted 03-01-2004 10:34 AM ET (US)
Thanks jimh and divefan:
I just spoke to customer service at BW. He says they us Sikaflex 291 on the bowrails. He said my installer should not have a problem with the gelcoat coming up.
The BW guy did say that 3M-5200 is some nasty stuff that could cause problems to the gelcoat.
Thanks, and I'll post some pictures when I get it completed.
WT

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Author	Topic: Proud owner of new Montauk too.
WT	posted 02-28-2004 11:43 PM ET (US) I also would like to thank everyone on this site. You guys have been a wealth of information. Today I picked up my new Montauk with the 90hp 4 stroke, swim platform, Pate 24 gallon tank and fishing package. I too am going to remove my bow rail to install a trolling motor next week. WT
erik selis	posted 02-29-2004 06:45 AM ET (US) WT, Congrads to you as well. It looks like the sales of the 170 Montauk is doing really well and I'm glad to hear that ! It's a fantastic boat and I'm sure you will spend many wonderful moments in it. I wish you all the best with your new baby and look forward to seeing pictures. Erik
divefan	posted 02-29-2004 08:27 PM ET (US) WT: Congrats to you and good luck. I had the shop take off all the rails before I took delivery. They did a great job. I was told you have to be careful you don't take off any gelcoat when you remove the screws. It needs to be sprayed with some kind of solvent that loosens the goop they put in the screw holes. I just had them put the stock screws back in with some silicone. Looks like a stock factory job. It is so much sleeker with no railing at all. IMHO it looks like too cool. Let's hear how you make out.
WT	posted 02-29-2004 10:13 PM ET (US) Divefan: I'm bummed. My BW dealer would not take the bow rail off for me. He warned me about tearing up the gel coat. I hope my marine electronics installer know what he is doing. WT
jimh	posted 02-29-2004 10:34 PM ET (US) Call the factory and find out what bedding adhesive/sealer is used in the rail mounting. They probably used a solvent to loosen it. Whaler has used an adhesive BOSTIK 902 (I think) for bedding things like that. Check with them to see what they recommend. If they used 3M-5200 there is now a solvent for that. It would be fun to see a nice digital image of your bow-rail-less 170 MONTAUK in my email inbox.
divefan	posted 03-01-2004 01:29 AM ET (US) jimh is correct. I remember the rigger saying something exactly like that. If you use the proper solvent it will take it off and break the bond so the gelcoat will not stick and breakup when you release it. You won't see a thing. They did a great job on mine. You can't even tell that there was anything there except for the screws. The screws don't bother me at all. BW does such a nice job of putting in the screws without leaving sharp edging on the cross on the head that they are just real smooth. It's no problem just to put them back in using a little silicone. Just let the solvent work in and be patient. Do not rush the job and you should do fine. Sorry he wouldn't do it for you. I guess every dealer has a different point of view on how to handle things.
WT	posted 03-01-2004 10:34 AM ET (US) Thanks jimh and divefan: I just spoke to customer service at BW. He says they us Sikaflex 291 on the bowrails. He said my installer should not have a problem with the gelcoat coming up. The BW guy did say that 3M-5200 is some nasty stuff that could cause problems to the gelcoat. Thanks, and I'll post some pictures when I get it completed. WT