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JIP posted 03-01-2004 02:53 PM ET (US)   Profile for JIP   Send Email to JIP  
Hey everyone,

I wrote this article on Pate Plastics' C24 fiberglass
fuel tank and wanted to share it with people who
are looking to install one for their Montauk or other boats.
Here's the detailed article with pictures.

http://tackletour.com/reviewpate.shtm

(Jim, hope this is okay with you. We don't make money on this, just trying to help out. Thanks!)

Jack Ip
TackleTour

erik selis posted 03-01-2004 02:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Thank you,

More very good information and pictures to go with it.

Erik

cape_rover posted 03-01-2004 06:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
[There are a few options. For those who are replacing their old container, they can mount the C24 in the existing location or figure out a better spot for an even more logical weight distribution. For example, on the Boston Whaler Montauk, some Anglers choose to put the weight of the 24 gallon tank right in front of the center console. This way it keeps the bow down when running in choppy waters, preventing it from bouncing up and slamming down.]

Do you have personal experience with this setup. Other than the increased lenth of hose, were there any pitfalls.

Is there a reason why you installed the 24 gal tank instead of the 27 gal tank?

mojipa posted 03-01-2004 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for mojipa  Send Email to mojipa     
Thanks for the review site. Good to see some info on the Pate setup. I recently ordered a Montauk and the 24 gallon Pate tank as well. I think I made the right choice with the tank. 13.2 gallons isn't enough fuel. Hopefully Whaler will make a change to this in the future.
Beaner posted 03-01-2004 08:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Beaner  Send Email to Beaner     

Great article! Thanks for sharing it. I will be installing my C24 in a few weeks....
JIP posted 03-02-2004 12:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for JIP  Send Email to JIP     
Guys, I'm glad it was helpful. We just bought a 2004
Montauk and will be rigging it up with different items.
We chose the Montauk as one of our test boats because
of the safety and it has great stability especially
when we are taking pictures.

cape_rover: I didn't try that installation, but I have
many friends who have Montauks and that's what one of
them did. Place 24 gallons up front, and placed the cooler
right above that, and he loved that set up.
Worked well for him when fishing, running, diving, etc.
If I had two 170s, I would try it.

I decided on the C24 because it was a good height.
Right now I can get my hands under the seat to open
the fuel cap. The C27 makes it a little tougher.
But still ok. I can always carry jerry cans when
running for Albacore. Also the fuel fitting.
That would be really tight as well because the C27 is
higher up. There are solutions for that, but I didn't
look into that.

mojipa: I don't know about you, but I have never been
able to get full 6.6 gallons out of one of those red cans.
6 is max, then I only have 12 gallons. Even with a 4 stroke outboard, that's not enough to run around and have
some fun on the water. Many people are upgrading to at least 24 gallons. There are different tanks to buy, but Pate seems to be a good option. Glad you went with a Pate. They are very nice.

I spoke to Whaler, they won't change the tank sizes,
at least not in the near future they won't.
I think a lot of people complain about those small cans,
but they have their ways of doing things. Doesn't matter,
on-deck fuel tanks are easy to change out anyways. =)

Looking forward to seeing more pictures of everyone's boat.

JIP posted 03-02-2004 12:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for JIP  Send Email to JIP     
I'm sure everyone saw Ray's C27 on Tabasco's page.
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage58.html

Look at the fitting, looks to me it would hit the seat.
But more capacity is very nice. =)

Jack Ip
TackleTour

cape_rover posted 03-02-2004 06:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
Does your friend have the 90 4 stroke on the back and is his boat the new style Montauk? Any chance your friend can post a picture of his tank mounted in front of the console? Any issues with the tank lifting up, especially in nasty chop/large waves.

How does he secure the cooler over the tank? Did he fabricate a seat or bench over the tank?

jimh posted 03-02-2004 08:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Jack,

Your article is very well done, with great presentation and high information content. Good writing combined with good photography--you can't beat it.

JIP posted 03-02-2004 02:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for JIP  Send Email to JIP     
cape_rover: "Does your friend have the 90 4 stroke on the back and is his boat the new style Montauk? Any chance your friend can post a picture of his tank mounted in front of the console? Any issues with the tank lifting up, especially in nasty chop/large waves.
How does he secure the cooler over the tank? Did he fabricate a seat or bench over the tank?
"

He had an old Montauk with a 2 stroke outboard and a kicker.
Sorry, I asked him for pictures, but he doesn't have any for the Montauk anymore. He made sure that the tank didn't
lift while the boat was pounding waves. How to do this? Well, there are a few ways, but do not use poly cords like the way I mounted them under the seat. Those will stretch up front. Use a material that will not stretch.
If you want to mount the cooler above the gas tank, you
can come up with a frame or bench of some sort to do it.
I don't know what year Montauk you have, but I believe
almost all of them have wood in that area because they need
to install the cooler mounts to the deck, or now, the concole, but the wood is still there. The less holes the better for me. For the newer 170's I think you can even put the Pate C24 or C27 infront of the console, and also put the 72qt cooler right infront of that! But I have
not measured it to see if it fits. You do lose some walking space that way, but it's an alternative method.
Because if you put the cooler on top of the gas tank,
it might block your vision if you sit down and drive; I stand all the time.

I believe the Montauk has plenty of room for modifications. It's plain simple, so you just have to think of way that fits your needs the best. I fish all the time so I stuck the Pate C24 under the seat.

Jim: Thanks! Your website is very helpful to Whaler folks.
I'll contribute as much as I can to your forum.

Jack Ip
TackleTour

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