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Jim Ray posted 03-08-2004 03:07 PM ET (US)   Profile for Jim Ray   Send Email to Jim Ray  

I have been lurking here for about a month now, reading the wealth of knowlege, and clipping photos in order to steal the great ideas I have seen posted.

Last year we bought a house that came with two davits on a dock over a small creek that connects to the Chesapeake Bay. Seemed foolish to have a dock and no boat so it was almost manditory to get a boat. For lifting with davits, the Whaler seemed a perfect match.

The wife and I went to the Virginia Beach boat show, and after much walking and looking, we bought our first choice, a 170 from Browning Marine in Virginia Beach.

It is supposed to arrive at the dealer some time this week, and we are scheduled to take delivery next week.

Fishing package, Bow cushion, Bimini top from BW, Blue trim on the boat. I expect some cringing, but we ordered the optional 60 horse EFI Bigfoot. I know, weak, but I have sworn off carburators if at all possible. Too many years trying to get carb equipped motorhomes started on a cold morning.

"Tobasco" sure had a strong case for the bigger EFI, and I drolled at his rig, but I will have to get some hours in the water before I can go that route. Perhaps if they up the rating on later 170 production.

I have a 4 horse four stroke Suzuki to install on the starboard transom, it will take me some doing to match the quality mounts I have seen in photos here.

First question. I have seen photo of boats hanging from davits, with no blocking under them. Is this something that is commonly done, with no ill effects on the hull?

Second question is about boat names. I checked the web for names, and have not seen "Molly Brown". I did see a listing for "The Unsinkable Molly Brown". Does anyone know of anyone who has used this name for a boat? If so, I will continue to research.

Thanks again. Great site, I have learned much more here than I did from the selling dealer. Not sure what I can contribute, hopefully it is not comic relief.

Jim Ray

BEACHPANDA posted 03-08-2004 08:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for BEACHPANDA  Send Email to BEACHPANDA     
Hi Jim,

Welcome to the Forum & Continuous Wave!

I too an a newbie (to the forum), but just wanted to offer a friendly Hello.

With regard to the naming of your new addition, where on the web did you look? Also, what is the meaning behind your preference?


Buckda posted 03-08-2004 08:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Hi Jim -

Welcome to the site!

I do not speak from experience, but have seen Whalers in both environments - hanging from the boathouse rafters without any support under them (just hanging from the lifting eyes) and also up on chocks.

In both cases, I did not notice any ill effects for either boat, but I was young, and they were not mine - so I wasn't looking closely.

Out of sheer abundance of caution, I would research if there is a way to swing the boat over onto chocks/blocks instead of just hanging it over the edge.

My first concern would be failure over the long haul...the second concern would be wear and tear from swaying in the wind...I'd imagine that that would wear your hardware pretty quickly.

Just my $.02. Good luck, and again - Welcome.


Jim Ray posted 03-08-2004 08:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim Ray  Send Email to Jim Ray     
Ah, BeachPanda,

You are forcing me to reveal my age. In the late 1950's, there was a movie about a real woman from Colorado who survived the sinking of the Titanic. Her name was Molly Brown, and she became the toast of the country as "The unsinkable Molly Brown". Debbie Renolds played the title role, and the charactors attitude reminds me of my wife.

Since it is a BW, the unsinkable part of the name is a given....

Besides, I think I could identify my boat name with a straight face if I ever had to make a distress call, with "Molly Brown".

Thanks for the Hello.

Jim Ray

jaccoserv posted 03-08-2004 10:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for jaccoserv  Send Email to jaccoserv     
I think that if you limit your name search to name's never used before, your only bet is to use your social security number. I'm being sarcastic, but really, don't worry about if someone else has the name. As far as naming ettiquette goes, using a name already in existence is not a crime. I bet the odds are very good that someone else has used the name before..... just please, not another "OBSESSION".
kamie posted 03-09-2004 01:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for kamie  Send Email to kamie     

Welcome to the forum and the wonderful world of whaler ownership. As for your davits I would have someone take a close look at them to make sure they support the boat.

Personally I think Molly Brown is a fine name for a boat and although I didn't catch the movie on the big screen, I saw it many times in reruns.
Good Luck
Jacco, How about .. Big black bottomless Pit? Oh wait, that's my house.. never mind.

Jamber posted 03-09-2004 01:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jamber  Send Email to Jamber     

Yes, I would HIGHLY recomend making sure your davit can handle the 170, by the way, congrats on beautiful choice for your boat!

Personally I block my Whaler with a cinder blocks, then a piece of cedar wood to protect the hull - two under the stern and one under the bow (about even with the cooler seat).
I do not like hanging the Whaler for long periods of time, mine us only hanging when I'm moving it in or out the water... I think I checked th eowners manual and Whaler does not recomend hanging it for exteneded periods of time.
Many of my neighboors let their non-Whaler boats hang all the time. But they are not really anal like myself. I really try to take good care of my Whaler and want it to last many any years.

We don't have a name for our Whaler, well our radio handle is "Jamber" for James (me) and my wife (Amber) = Jamber
I just call it "The Whaler".

Best of luck with yours!

Jim Ray posted 03-09-2004 08:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim Ray  Send Email to Jim Ray     
Thanks to all who answered, and especially to you Jamber, for taking time from what must be a hectic time for you. You and I think alike on the stowage.

I have not figured out exactly how to load test my davits yet, the bolting to the pile is very secure. I just don't know how much flex the pile has.

I tend to agree with renting the engine hoist. They are hard to move around in grass, but are a bullet proof lift. I used one to move an 1100 lb concrete lighthouse model into the back yard of my last house. Took the wife and I about an hour, but we made it. Picking it up, pushing it a foot, setting it down and repeating.

Buckda, good thoughts. Thanks for the ideas, I am planning on cutting some 6x6 timbers at an angle that matches the hull on the boat, and just sliding them under the hull when it is swung over the dock. Let the boat down on them, and secure power to the winches to make it a little harder to get the boat back in the water. I will post photos as soon as I get something done.

Kamie, thanks for the advice about the name. I had a picture of meeting another Whaler owner with the same boat name as worst than two women wearing the same dress to a party, except I would be the duplicate...

Thanks again.
Jim Ray

Barney posted 03-09-2004 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barney  Send Email to Barney     
Jim Ray, Welcome. No "cringing" on the 60 HP EFI here. I am interested in hearing your performance reports including fuel usage and also seeing pictures of a 170 with the 60 HP installed. Have fun with you great boat. Jim
BEACHPANDA posted 03-09-2004 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for BEACHPANDA  Send Email to BEACHPANDA     

Thanks for the naming link, and I like you choice of names too.

For me, it's going to be WHALE RIDER. Very appropriate considering the lengend... both legends, that is.


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