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BEACHPANDA posted 03-12-2004 04:49 PM ET (US)   Profile for BEACHPANDA   Send Email to BEACHPANDA  
I've taken off the T-Top from my 1994 Outrage 24. Previously, the prior owner had redundant electronics on the boat for everthing.. including one standard VHF antenna and one High Gain VHF antenna.

Both antenna's "were" mounted on the T-Top, but now that I've removed it, where should the placement be? I've since added a custom CC railing to attach to the same anchor points that T-Top had had, and the top of the railing is above the CC Windshield.

I didn't want to mount the antenna to the side of the CC because I'm concerned that my younger passengers, as well as the less sea-faring older ones, may grab it as a handrail while they move from bow to stern (and visa versa). Besides potentially getting a hand full of fiberglass, I also don't want them to break it either.

Any suggestions as to where to mount the antenna? I was thinking on the Port side top of the Grab Rail. The grab rail is bout 6' from the floor, so it won't be used as a handle by the passengers.

What do you think?

BEACHPANDA

jimh posted 03-12-2004 08:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Higher = better
Barry posted 03-12-2004 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
The problem with mounting to the console or the console rail is that it may interfere with the use of canvas (ie. bimini top). Depending on how the antenna is mounted you may be able to angle it so that it works. I had an older 8' antenna mounted to the side of my console and replaced it with a 4' Digital. The good news is that it fits under the top. The bad news is that I lost some range. I like the idea of a rail mount so you're not drilling more holes in the console.

The other option is to mount the antenna to the bow or side rails or on the gunwale. The downside to that location is that you have to fish around the antenna.

Ed Stone posted 03-13-2004 07:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
Beachpanda,
If you do not plan much offshore boating go for
the 4 foot whip.

If you mounted the 8 footer on top of the CC rail
what would you do with it while trailering.
If you are determined to use the 8 footer,you
could mount it forward on the gunwale so while
trailering it would fold back and rest on top
of the gunwale.

There should be someone willing to buy your old
t-top off the 24.
Ed Stone

kamie posted 03-13-2004 05:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for kamie  Send Email to kamie     
Beachpanda,

How hard was it to get the t-top off? Looking at the possibility of doing that toward the end of the season.

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-13-2004 07:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
What do you mean by "Standard" and "High Gain". To me, High
Gain is a 9 db antenna, which is about 20 feet long and
inappropriate for anything whaler has ever built. I'm
guessing you mean a 4' 3db gain antenna by "standard" and an
8' 6 db gain antenna by "high gain".

If you mount an antenna on the console rail, you can use a
mount that will allow you to fold it forward or aft for
trailering.

If you mount it on the side of the console, everybody will
want to use it for a handrail. I've got a buddy with an
antenna on the side of his M170 console, and I want to grab
it, even though I KNOW better. It just says "GRAB ME!"


Chuck

BEACHPANDA posted 03-14-2004 01:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for BEACHPANDA  Send Email to BEACHPANDA     
Jim, I couldn't agree with you more.

Ed & Barry, you hit the nail on the head. I may have no choice but to mount the antenna on the Gunwale, and just fold it down when moored, or trailering. But, as Jim mentioned, as well as several others, Higher is Better.

Since I'm having 20' + of custom Bimini made, there is the concern that the Bimini will interfere while under-way... actually the Bimini will interfere unless I come up with another solution. Also, I'm having a Center Console (CC) cover made, and don't see where I can fold the antenna down - other than being be left with having to make a hole in the CC cover to accomadate the antenna. 8' is a lot of antenna to fold down under a Cover. Perhaps, I can lay the antenna down diagonally from the top of the rail accross the front of the CC and still hide the antenna? I'll need to measure.

Since the CC cover is being custome made, perhaps the installer will have an idea and possible solutions.

Thanks for the ideas. I will post again once I know what I'm doing.

BEACHPANDA

Barry posted 03-14-2004 08:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
Since you are going with a large custom bimimi top, I would definately mount the antenna on the gunwale just behind the bowrail or on the rearmost section of the bowrail.
BEACHPANDA posted 03-14-2004 11:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for BEACHPANDA  Send Email to BEACHPANDA     
Barry,

Thanks for the pics. It looks like mounting the antenna, behind the rearmost point of the bowrail, on the Gunwale, is the way to go.

ALLEN

BEACHPANDA posted 03-24-2004 07:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for BEACHPANDA  Send Email to BEACHPANDA     
After taking to heart eveyone's kind advice, and speaking with my canvas guy, I've had the antenna mounted on the starboard gunwhale, just outside the rear portion of the bow rail.

Thank you all, very much.

BEACHPANDA

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