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InHerNet posted 03-22-2004 03:01 PM ET (US)   Profile for InHerNet   Send Email to InHerNet  
I read another post on the general section about one of our forum members "Marsh" installed a bow mounted trolling motor on his 170 without removing the bow rail. The thread was directed towards non-post classic whalers. After communicating with him he sent me some great pictures of the motor installed and specifications.
I was so impressed with the configuration that I ordered the same setup for my 170 and just can't wait to get it on and working.
The motor is a Minn Kota RT65/AP PowerDrive Bow-Mount Trolling Motor and CoPilot Combo with the Retractable/Removable Motor Mount.
I know that many forum members with the 170 have been searching for this solution and I thought I would give you all some heads up on it.
Don
Marsh posted 03-22-2004 10:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marsh  Send Email to Marsh     
Don:
Thanks for the kind words...I still have the pics; if any one else is interested, I will be happy to email them.

Marsh

WT posted 03-22-2004 11:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
I would like to see the pics.

Thanks,
WT

alanfujii posted 03-23-2004 12:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for alanfujii  Send Email to alanfujii     
I also would like to see the pictures. I have a Dauntless 160 with bow rails. I do not want to remove them because I have small kids. Thanks in advance.
erik selis posted 03-23-2004 03:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Marsh,
Could you also send me the pictures please?

Thanks,

Erik

prj posted 03-23-2004 10:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for prj  Send Email to prj     
Marsh,
I would love to see the photos also
in an attempt to glean any information
transferrable to an Outrage-19' with bowrail.

Thanks in advance

rtk posted 03-23-2004 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for rtk  Send Email to rtk     
I installed the same set up on my Carolina Skiff last year. The copilot was fantastic- I kept the remote in my pocket while fishing off the back of the boat and adjusted course while I was fishing. The auto pilot feature on this trolling motor was great also- worked exactly as they advertised. Set a course and the motor will steer to that heading automatically. I used it for drift fishing when there was no wind- got a lot of funny looks as I "drifted" by and everyone else was just bobbing around. Put a lot of fish in the boat due to having that trolling motor.

Rich

Whalen posted 03-23-2004 12:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalen    
Marsh, Good job! Can you send the pictures to Jimh for addition to the archives? Thanks.
Marsh posted 03-25-2004 09:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marsh  Send Email to Marsh     
Guys:
I am flattered by the interest in my pictures...however, due to my slow dial up modem, it will take considerable time to send pics to all who are interested. I will email to jimh first in the hopes that he will consider adding them to the site for all to see, until I manage to get everyone their own email.

Thanks for your patience,
Marsh

InHerNet posted 03-26-2004 08:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
Marsh,
I have emailed the pictures you sent to me to the above requesting members.
Don
erik selis posted 03-26-2004 03:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Thanks for the pictures Marsh.
Looks like a very efficient setup. Nice job.

Erik

InHerNet posted 04-01-2004 07:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
Marsh - Thanks again, the trolling motor is now installed and works just the way you described it would. The co-pilot feature is unbelievable. “What fun” I am not sure about the attachment to any of my fishing rods yet, although I may give it a try.
I am going to tether the locking pin to something before I lose it in the drink.
Don
seasicknes posted 06-13-2004 02:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for seasicknes    
Marsh,
Can you send me photos of your setup.

thanks.

billyc posted 06-13-2004 07:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for billyc  Send Email to billyc     
I bought a Minn Kota Power Drive (40# thrust) for my post-classic 13 based on the comments from this site.

It does have a small footprint and the removeable bracket is very convenient. Once in the water it works nicely.

My problem is deploying the thing. The routine for me is push, grunt, swear, push, grunt, swear. After 3-4 repetitions it finally drops in the water. The local Minn Kota rep says the the mechanism will eventually losen up. It will be none too soon for me!

cmarques posted 06-15-2004 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for cmarques  Send Email to cmarques     
Don
Can you send me some pictures to see if it is possible to mount on my Dauntless? Thanks in advance

Chris

rkong posted 06-16-2004 12:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for rkong  Send Email to rkong     
Marsh,

Please send me the pics too. Thanks.

InHerNet posted 06-16-2004 10:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
I have received several requests for photos of the trolling motor mount, and I must apologize for not having the chance to respond. I will be posting the pictures on web for all to see very shortly. So check back soon.
Don
AQUANUT posted 06-17-2004 12:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
God forbid I rain on anyones parade.

but I think it is important to make mention of something brought to my attention...

in many states, by removing the bow rail, you have just made it against the law to have anyone siting forward of the helm/console while underway. Here in oregon it is a ticketable offence....this doesn't only apply to bw's...it includes all vessels bass boats, even jon boats...with exceptions of tiller handled motors...and boats where the factory installs the seating configurations and omits hand/grab rails..deeming they are not warrented...


you will notice that on a late model montauk 170 as with most whalers but not all...there are few places on board where there isn't a grab rail in case of a sudden pitch or roll.


justa a thot....whatever floats your boat!

justa rigger that installs bow rails.

nice boat marsh!!!!!!!!!!!

InHerNet posted 06-17-2004 10:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
I put Marsh's photos on the web for you to view.

[url]img78.photobucket.com/albums/v295/dlwilson25/?action=view¤t=Running_position_from_console.jpg&sort=descending [/url]

Don

InHerNet posted 06-17-2004 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v295/dlwilson25/?action=view¤t=Running_position_from_console.jpg&sort=descending

If this tag did not work then just copy this and paste it in your address bar.

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v295/dlwilson25/?action=view¤t=Running_position_from_console.jpg&sort=descending

TomG posted 06-17-2004 11:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for TomG  Send Email to TomG     
Very helpful...thanks for posting the pix! Can someone tell me the dimension from the gunwale to the bottom of the bow rail on the 170 (measured at the point where the trolling motor is mounted). I am trying to figure out if I can do the same thing on my Outrage 18.

Tom

Whalen posted 06-17-2004 01:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalen    
Thanks for the pics! I was waiting for these to be posted. I went ahead and mounted my identical setup, in the same place, only I placed the lip of the mounting plate about 1/2 inch inside of the rub rail radius. This prevents the mounting plate from hitting anything, which I have I would have done several times by now. I just drilled a new stop pin hole so as to allow for a very slightly canterlevered posistion. By the way, I use a rod saver velcro strap around the shaft near the head and around the bow rail. Keeps everything solid when trailering or underway.
cmarques posted 06-17-2004 08:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for cmarques  Send Email to cmarques     
Thanks!
Barney posted 06-17-2004 09:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barney  Send Email to Barney     
Thanks Don, JimB
AQUANUT posted 06-17-2004 11:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
AWESOME!

F.Y.I
the wiring for the bow lights are run under the rub rail insert..there is enought space to run 10 guage/2 strand under the rub rail insert also. about where your connector
is in this photo, you could install [with the use of a hole saw..and a long 1/4 inch bit used for cable tv installation]
a recepatacle doing away with the exposed wiring laying on the deck..neat clean..safe.
justa thot

Jim Bennett posted 06-18-2004 05:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim Bennett  Send Email to Jim Bennett     
Marsh,

Hope that is the Whaler you'll be bringing to East Tennessee Rendezvous in Sept. I would like to mount trolling motor to bow of my 1968 Sakonnet which doesn't have near the deck space of yours . Maybe can get some pointers.

Marsh posted 06-18-2004 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marsh  Send Email to Marsh     
Jim:
That is indeed my Whaler that the wife and I will have at the Sept. rendezvous. Looking forward to meeting you, and everyone else. I have recently installed an on-board battery charger, and a keel guard. (pouring more money through that hole in the water!)

Lots 'o fun, though,

Marsh

TomG posted 06-18-2004 09:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for TomG  Send Email to TomG     
Can anyone tell me the measurement from the gunwale to the bottom of the bow rail on a 170 at the point where the trolling motor is located in the photos? Thanks...

Tom

erik selis posted 06-19-2004 05:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Marsh,

Sorry for getting off topic here but you mentioned that you just recently mounted a keel guard. Do you by any chance have any pictures available of how it's mounted and also what type of keel guard it is? I also am planning on mounting one but up till now I just can't seem to build up the courage to do so.

Thanks,

Erik

Marsh posted 06-21-2004 06:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Marsh  Send Email to Marsh     
Erik:
It's a "Keel Guard" brand, vinyl-feel guard, 5 inches by 5 feet, sold for about $110 by Cabela's, Bass Pro, and other shops. Install is easy, with self-stick adhesive after surface prep. Good pics are available at Cabela's and Bass-Pro web sites. Do a product search for keel protectors. For some reason, key word keel guard yields the wrong results.

The stick on keel guard is just the ticket for me, as we have lots o' rocky/gravel shorelines.

Later,
Marsh

erik selis posted 06-21-2004 08:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Thanks for the info Marsh.

Erik

skategoat posted 06-28-2004 03:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for skategoat  Send Email to skategoat     
I wanted to bump this up to see if anyone could measure the amount of clearance between the bottom of the rail and the deck.

Thanks,

HK

TomG posted 07-08-2004 03:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for TomG  Send Email to TomG     
We don't have any 170 owners with a tape measure? I'd appreciate it if someone could supply the measurement from the bottom of the rail to the gunwale in the area where this motor mount is attached.

Thanks,

Tom

erik selis posted 07-08-2004 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
The measurement is 394mm (15 1/2 ")

Erik

TomG posted 07-08-2004 08:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for TomG  Send Email to TomG     
Thank you very much, Erik! I really appreciate the information.

Tom

erik selis posted 07-09-2004 04:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
No problem Tom. You're welcome.

Erik

Cameron Park posted 07-12-2004 03:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cameron Park  Send Email to Cameron Park     
I just put the same set-up on the port side of my 2002 sport 130. It looks and works great! The motor is a Minnkota power drive 55 with auto-pilot and co-pilot. Just wondering - the retractable mount came with a separate bolt in a plastic bag. The instructions say if you have a powerdrive, auto-pilot or co-pilot, put this bolt in the left rear of the motor. (It's not the pin that secures the motor on the mount). Does anybody know what this bolt is for? All the holes on the motor already have bolts in them.
Marsh posted 07-12-2004 09:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marsh  Send Email to Marsh     
If memory serves, the extra bolt is for use when mounting the motor to a slider/retractible mount. The original bolt causes interference with the slider, and must be replaced.
I remember, because I did not notice the extra bolt until I had installed mine, then wondered why it did not properly retract (doh!)

Later,
Marsh

REM_Tied posted 02-10-2008 11:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for REM_Tied  Send Email to REM_Tied     
I want to install a bow mount trolling motor on my Montauk. I fish salt water, Chesapeake Bay. I know this thread has a little age... I can not find the model that Marsh installed. I can't seem to get any info on the grip-glide mount for the Riptide motors. Anybody done a trolling motor recently while leaving the rail on? Looks like they have a new deploy mechanism to me. Not sure it is the same thing. Can someboday give me some help please.
REM_Tied posted 02-12-2008 07:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for REM_Tied  Send Email to REM_Tied     
This motor thing must be old news for most of you. I have been fishing for a long time without a seat and trolling motor. Somehow I am going to get this done before spring.


I am going to order the Minn Kota RT70 and install it on my Montauk (post classic). I will try to take pictures and document everything in case anybody has the same thoughts or is seeing a chiropracter.

I shot a quick email to Minn Kota just to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Response below. I doubt he really knows if it will work on a Montuak with the bow rails on though.

_______________________________________________________


Richard,

The RT65/AP is no longer available. The RT70/SP/CP/AP would be the closest motor that we do make. This motor would have the Power Drive mount although the Grip Glide is no longer available. It has been replaced with a deploy assist lever which would work just as well for your application.

Ryan Scholl
Technical Service Representative
121 Power Drive
Mankato, MN 56002
800-227-6433 Ext. 442
ryan.scholl@johnsonoutdoors.com

timsr posted 02-18-2008 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for timsr  Send Email to timsr     
Rem_Tide I have the whole procedure of installing a bow mounted trolling motor documented along with pictures. If you would like I can e-mail you them.

Tim

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