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erik selis posted 04-12-2004 02:58 PM ET (US)   Profile for erik selis   Send Email to erik selis  
Hi all,

Today I had the opportunity to attend the annual Exhibition of our Boston Whaler - Sea Ray dealer in Amsterdam. I was also given the chance to take a test ride in the 190 NANTUCKET... more about that later.

There were a few interesting boats there. Of course the 305 CONQUEST and the 320 OUTRAGE (Outrage(ous)price: 195,000 ($235,298.34 US)!!!This with 2 Merc 250 Optimax motors. There was also a 26-foot Justice with 2 Mercury 225 Optimax motors...wow, what a machine!

I took some pictures of some of the boats there and would like to share them with you all.

http://users.skynet.be/extreme-vissers/Driessens.htm

Back to the 190 NANTUCKET. The boat was equipped with the 115 EXLPTO Saltwater motor and no special options. There were in total 5 people on board (approx. weight: 800lbs). In this configuration (motor) and 5 passengers (all standing), the boat definitely feels under-powered. It takes a long time to get on plane. I asked two passengers to be seated on the seats at the back, just to feel what it's like to get on plane. It now takes even longer to get on plane but she eventually does. Once on plane the boat rides very soft but it feels slow. I don't have any velocity data because the (smart)gauge didn't work (the salesman said you should be able to see the speed on it?). We could see that she was doing 5500rpm's. We must not forget that there were 5 passengers on the boat. I know with 4 passengers in my 170 MONTAUK that mine is much much faster both at WOT and hole shot. I was surprised. Again, the Nantucket is a much heavier boat and a 115 hp engine seems to be a bit light for this boat. Sorry, but this is what I felt. Compared to the 18-foot Classic Outrage the 190's inside space is about the same. (also the same as the 170 Montauk). The console however is much larger and higher. This feels much nicer than my 170. It was a beautiful sunny day today and hardly any wind at all so I couldn't feel how the boat handles in rough conditions. According to some people I talked to who own one, it handles great in rough stuff. I believe them. They also advise the 150hp motor on her. I personally think that if you plan on going fishing with 2 adults and some fishing gear, the 115hp engine will do it's job well enough.

Erik

Sal A posted 04-12-2004 03:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
gulp..............
erik selis posted 04-12-2004 04:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Sal,

It wasn't my intention to scare you or upset you. Don't forget we had 5 adults in the boat. I think the data in the reference section will be correct.

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/190Nantucket.html

The Nantucket is a great boat and yours looks just fantastic the way it's coming along!

Erik

Sal A posted 04-12-2004 08:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
No worries Erik,

My "gulp" was typical self-flogging on my part. Its actually tongue in cheek. I am actually comfortable with my choice (for now :) ) Thanks for the report!

Dick posted 04-12-2004 09:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Erik

Great job on the pictures and review. Congratulations to your dealer for showing that many Whalers.

Dick

erik selis posted 04-13-2004 03:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Thanks for you comments Dick.
erik selis posted 04-13-2004 04:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Darn, I pressed the enter button too quickly.

E.W. Driessen Amsterdam sure did a fine job preparing and showing the many new and older models. I didn't count all the Boston Whalers but there were alot! E.W. Driessens is the only "Master Dealer" outside of the USA.
The salesmen treated us like VIP's and were helpful in every way. If they read this I would like to thank them for a wonderful afternoon.

I didn't see any "Verado" motor there except for a huge life size sticker on the back of their truck. I guess they're still waiting to get one.

Sal, I can't wait for you to get your beautiful boat on the water and give us some detailed data and observations of the way she handles in all conditions.

Erik

Jorgen posted 04-13-2004 01:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jorgen  Send Email to Jorgen     
Erik,

I also tried the Nantucket, a nice looking good handling boot with a soft ride indead. We were with 3 adults and a 12 year old and the boat took at least 11 seconds before getting on plane, too long....

The 115 Optimax is a nice engine, even more silence that a 4 stroke at WOT, but to less HP for this heavey boat. I think the 150 HP shoudt be the minimum required engine, not the maximum.

See yah.

erik selis posted 04-13-2004 01:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Hey Jorgen,

It was great to see you again at the exhibition!

I'm glad you also got the opportunity to test drive the 190 Nantucket. Maybe electric or hydraulic trim tabs would help if the boat is equipped with a 115 Optimax.
I also think the 150 optimax is the motor for this boat.

You know, I kinda think of it this way: The 115 motor is the minimum rated hp for this boat. The performance of this motor (on paper at least) is somewhat disappointing. Lets say you would put the minimum rated hp motor (60hp) on a 170 Montauk and put 4 adults in the boat. I'm sure one would experience the same sort of lagging to get on plane as we saw with the Nantucket.

Btw, I really can't wait to take a spin in your 210 Outrage with the 225 optimax ! That must be an amazing ride!!

Hope we get together soon on the Haringvliet with the whole gang.

Take care,

Erik

panther posted 07-07-2004 12:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for panther    
In reading this I wonder why Whaler seems to be underpowering all their hulls these days. Why? Look at the Nantucket for instance...it could easily handle a 200hp engine without being overpowered. What is Whaler thinking?
fno posted 07-07-2004 12:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
Remember the name Brunswick and say it at the same time as marketing. The motor on a boat these days is 20%-30% of the total cost of the package. So a Nantucket with a 115 Opti on it will cost say 32K then you try toget someone to lay out 38K for the 150 Opti. It's all about making the price competitive with the rest of the marketplace.
Camuyano posted 07-07-2004 01:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Camuyano  Send Email to Camuyano     
I couldn't get to the pictures. Does anyone have the same problem or is it just me?

Imanuel

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