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hardensheetmetal posted 04-17-2004 01:54 PM ET (US)   Profile for hardensheetmetal   Send Email to hardensheetmetal  
I am in the process of hopefully selling my non whaler maritime skiff, and have been looking at newer 13's (130's). I have always disliked how high up the seats look in this model compared to the classic 13. Has anyone ever installed an old style wood interior into a newer 130. Now that they have been out for a few years, I figured someone may have tinkered with one.

The other question I have is regarding the rails. I see where some have standard side rails and some have a full bow/side rail. The particular boat i am looking at has the side rails only. I never loved the full wrap around bow/side combination that was part of the calssic super sport pkg. I much prefer the high bow with seperate side set up. Has anyone ever added a seperate bow only rail? it is something that would have to be custom made and might be very cost prohibitive, but I think that a newer 130 with wood seats (I'm not afraid of a little varnish) and a high bow rail would be really nice.

Dan

andygere posted 04-17-2004 02:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Dan,
That's a neat idea and I think it would work well. My 2004 catalog shows side rails standard, and the low wraparound rail as an option. I'm sure a good fabricator could build you a set of Montauk style bow rails that would surface mount like the factory built low rail does. A quick look at Boattrader shows that a "new pre-owned classic" can probably be put together for around the same money as buying a clean true classic and repowering/retrailering. Many of the newer boats seem to have a few goodies like fishfinders and covers as well. Bring on the glossy varnish job!
hardensheetmetal posted 04-17-2004 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
OK, after stering at a picture of the boat I am considering, here is what I think would be even easire, and still get the calssic look -

Remove the glass console and mount a classic looking flat top mahogany console to the front seat (the way the original galss one was). Leave the original galss thwarts, but cap them with a thin (1/4") pc of mahogany plywood, but make it easily removable to be maintained. Cap the bow locker in the same manner.

I am not a big fan of painting over gelcoat, but I would love to see some Whaler fanatic paint the inside of a 130 the classic light blue color.

Dan

hardensheetmetal posted 04-17-2004 05:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
sorry, thats steering, easier, and glass...
Jarhead posted 04-17-2004 06:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jarhead  Send Email to Jarhead     
I don't get it... You want a wood console and seat, custom hand rails and light blue interior.

Why don't you just rebuild an old hull?

Moe posted 04-17-2004 10:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
Go to whalerparts.com, install the viewer and look at the drawings of the 130 Sport. Doing this on a 130 looks pretty easy.

I think the nicest approach would be to replace the thwart seats and bow locker cover with duplicates made of mahagony. For practical reasons (since it gets wet), I'd use the current center support for the rear seat.

You could also design a wood steering console, or reuse the fiberglas one on top of the forward mahagony seat.

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Moe

hardensheetmetal posted 04-18-2004 08:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Moe-

The steering console that is currently in use, is that screwed down to the seat?

Jarhead-

Actually, I've rebuilt three 13's in past years (one of them is in the Cetacea section of this forum). There are lots of really nicely restored 13's running around. I just thought it would be interesting to see a new 13 that someone had spent the time making it look a little different.

I also am not in love with how high up the current steering console sits and the angle of the steering wheel on the new boats. I am sure that it is more comfortable than the classic 13, I just think it looks a bit strange. I would like to see the steering wheel lower and at a little less of an angle.

If i did purchase the boat, i would probably take on the wood project as discussed, but I highly doubt I would ever think about painting the interior. I just thought it would be neat to see. If anyone here is handy with computer graphics, it might be neat to see all these changes in virtual form.

Dan

Jarhead posted 04-18-2004 09:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jarhead  Send Email to Jarhead     
Dan... You're right, at least in my case, about the 130's console being more comfortable than the classic.
I have to say that I like the look of my 130 Sport but I guess the old saying about beauty being in the eye of the beholder applies here. :) :)

Your project idea does sound interesting. Like the blue interior idea.

Yes, the console is fixed to the forward seat via screws. Looks like it would be a snap to remove...

Good luck.

hardensheetmetal posted 04-18-2004 10:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
I've been looking over a bunch of pictures of 130's and it looks like the steering wheel sort of swoops out (for lack of a better phrase) from the console toward the stern seat. I would be curious to know what the measurement is from the back edge of the forward seat to the front edge of the stern seat. Unfortunately it looks like the seats have to stay exactly where they are due to the way the seat is supported from the inside of the hull.

Dan

Moe posted 04-18-2004 01:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
I'd STRONGLY suggest using the boat for a season with the seats and wheel the way they are.

There's a reason the seats are high. As you know, back in the Classic days, they eventually raised them by sitting them on top of some boards running along the sides because they were originally too low, putting the rider's weight on the tailbone with their knees up so high compared to their bottom.

You're definitely going to want to replicate the seat backs in wood. They provide good lower back support.

The wheel angle is pretty good when underway. It looks like it forces the pilot to lean forward a bit to reach the top of the wheel. This may be good for pulling up and standing when facing a big wave.

All I'm saying is give the current setup a fair shake before you change it.
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Moe

hardensheetmetal posted 04-18-2004 01:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Moe-

I agree completely. I have not ridden in a 130, but from what I have read here, it is night and day when compared to the classic's ride.

What model year were the molded in seat backs started. The boat I am looking at is a 2001 and does not have them, just a flat thrwart seat.

Dan

hardensheetmetal posted 04-18-2004 01:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Regarding the high bow rail, someone else made a very good point in an earlier thread. If the boat is going to be boarded from the bow or frequently beached, the bow rail might not be so desireable. i plan on using the boat to go from my other boat in Westerly, RI, down the Pawcatuck River to Watch Hill and Napatree Beach, so I do plan on beaching the boat.

Dan

Moe posted 04-18-2004 02:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
I THINK the current seat backs started in 2003.

jaccoserv posted 04-18-2004 04:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for jaccoserv  Send Email to jaccoserv     
I live about .5 miles from the original Whaler plant in Braintree Mass. and about 15 miles from the Rockland plant, so it's pretty safe to say that there are as many old 13s floating around this neck of the woods as anywhere in the world (also standing, beached, blocked or abused). There is an old 13 with the high bow rail you mentioned, it really does not look atrractive, besides the points that you brought up about it hindering your ability to enter and exit from the bow.

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