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cape_rover posted 05-07-2004 12:55 PM ET (US)   Profile for cape_rover   Send Email to cape_rover  
I am picking up my new Montauk from the dealer in a couple of weeks. What types of problems have people discovered during the test ride/inspection. I've heard of shifting and starting (4 stroke) problems. Are there others?
Barney posted 05-07-2004 12:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barney  Send Email to Barney     
Check the battery box installation and the battery connections. Make sure you've got the correct prop.
Divedog posted 05-07-2004 01:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Divedog  Send Email to Divedog     
Good topic, I'm picking mine up next Thursday. Did the dealer offer to take you out for a test ride or did you request it? I hadn't though of doing an "inspection" on a new boat. I've gone out on used boats for sale but hadn't thought about it with a new one.
cape_rover posted 05-07-2004 02:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
For the expense of the prep fee, the dealer 'offered' to take me out for a test ride. Thanks for the prop suggestion. What are the problems with the battery box?
Barney posted 05-07-2004 02:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barney  Send Email to Barney     
Incorrectly installed strap, so the battery box was loose. I knew the prop was wrong because it was aluminum. The factory shipped the correct one. JimB
Maximus posted 05-07-2004 02:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Maximus  Send Email to Maximus     
Make sure it shifts in and out of FWD-neutral-REV okay. They did some minor adjustment at my request.

Also, be sure the gauges are clear and not fogged up.

You may want to have the dealer replace the bow stop with a high quality orange stop as the black stock stop does a number with the smudging.

sportroyalwulf posted 05-07-2004 03:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for sportroyalwulf  Send Email to sportroyalwulf     
This may seem almost stupid but check all of the fluid levels, oil gear case etc. I have known others that had low levels on delivery. Also give the engine exterior a good going over as packing materials and tape sometimes leave glue or adhesive on the covers that can be hard to remove. I had some tape remanants on the skeg that was hard to get off.
davej14 posted 05-07-2004 03:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for davej14  Send Email to davej14     
Sounds like the perfect time to experiment with the motor height while the dealer can help with the adjustment. From other posts on this site, most deliveries are made with the motor mounted too low. General opinion seems to be that the anticavitation plate should be 1" to 1.5" above the lowest point of the transom.
cape_rover posted 05-08-2004 07:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
If the boat porpoises, I'll talk to them about changing the motor height. Whaler mounts the motor for the typical boater so I doubt the dealer will want to experiment.

Have there been any problems with the trailer, other than the black bow stop?

Moe posted 05-08-2004 07:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
Bearing buddies not loaded with grease. Check 'em yourself.

AQUANUT posted 05-08-2004 08:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
Geesh where are you guys buying your b/w's at wallmart..these are things the dealer should have addressed and pdi'd...[pre delivery inspection] before they rolled of the lot!
cape_rover posted 05-08-2004 05:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
Aquanut, since you probably see more new whalers from the factory than most on this board, what are some of the odd things you have seen (or not seen/missing) on a newly delived montauk?
AQUANUT posted 05-08-2004 09:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
welllllllllll,
first of all....my experience in the delivery of new whalers is somewhat limited...the current dearlership I work for is somewhat of a newbie....as far as seeing unbelieveable and astonishing things from the factory..I can honestly say...I ain't seen nothing yet!....the dearlership I was at prior to this one is currently doing 1 million a month in new boat sales.....now there I saw it all.

There is one small problem: the factory tie down straps that attach the lifting eyes on the transom to the trailer get canned before it is delievered—they are junk—and replaced with the good stuff.

Other wise workmanship is awesome...I compare it to the quality I experienced in dealing with correct craft, ski and air natiques {more florida boats}..MY boat detailer loves them....they are really in great shape when they leave the factory and make the 3000 mile trip across the US.
makes his job easier.

believe me....I have a critical eye..and things look great so far.

jimh posted 05-08-2004 10:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The reference to the propeller mix up was to a few cases where apparently the factory issued the wrong propeller on the motor, shipping it with an aluminum propeller when the upgraded motor called for a stainless steel performance propeller as part of the package. Or was it a dealer who was mixing the propellers—we never did get the full story on that.

But if you've paid for a stainless steel propeller, of course you ought to get one.

You might also see if the dealer would work with you on testing propellers. It would seem to me that if one owner was a 98-pound guy who always boated alone, and another owner was a beefy linebacker who always fished with three similar sized buddies, two coolers, and a case of beer, there might be a difference in the optimum propeller set up for those two situations.

AQUANUT posted 05-09-2004 08:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
Bravo Jim,
We deal with this issue almost daily...here in the pacific northwest...out customers seem to be boating at sea level or 5000 ft above it..due to atmospherics..engines run/perform differently at different altitudes, with the exception of E.F.I, D.F.I. engines. There are many that purchase additional props, different pitches for different applications.
great point!
erik selis posted 05-09-2004 11:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
As I recall when I went to pick up my boat at the dealer, the sales rep. went over a check list with me. He explained each item on the check list in detail.(both in relationship to motor and boat) After inspection I signed the check list.
The sale rep. then took me out for a test run and explained to me all the functions of the switches and gauges. He gave me on hand tips concerning trimming and general handling of my particular boat. The check list is part of the dossier that's included in the general manual and warranty papers provided by Boston Whaler. Most likely part of the ISO 9001 quality procedures. IMO all dealers must follow the same delivery procedures for Boston Whaler boats world-wide and I think they do a great job.

Erik

cape_rover posted 05-10-2004 08:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
I'm sure there is some kind of checklist, but what kind of setup/warranty problems, if any, did you have a after your purchase that you could have discoved during the initial inspection?

It also sounds like I need to make sure the idle is set properly to turn the heavy SS prop.

Sal A posted 05-10-2004 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
When I took delivery of my Nantucket, my dealer went over such a checklist, organized all my papers etc for me, and spent a substantial amount of time on the water with me and the boat. He went over trimming, tips, and also spent a fair amount of time teaching me to dock properly. It would seem that the provision of such high quality service is standard among nearly all BW dealers.
bkloss posted 05-10-2004 04:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for bkloss  Send Email to bkloss     
Ditto -

I took delivery of a 2004 Dauntless 180 almost a month ago and was walked through an extensive checklist of boat, trailer, motor and by my choice I had the dealer take the boat out during the week to check things out before delivery. It was raining when we went through the checklist and the owner brought out an umbrella so that we could complete the "important" walk through. I took delivery on a Saturday and Jim from Schock Boats called me on Monday morning to see how I liked the new boat.

cape_rover posted 06-04-2004 12:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
I pick the boat up tomorrow. Doesn't sound like people have had many problems after delivery. I'll make sure it starts easily, shift properly, and idles properly. Please comment if you've found other problems other than the ones already mentioned.
jimh posted 06-04-2004 07:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Changed "issue" to "problem" in about half a dozen places. When you buy a new boat and something is not right, you have a problem, not an issue.]
cape_rover posted 06-07-2004 12:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
The only thing I found wrong was the 4S 90hp engine cover did not latch properly in front.

What is the purpose of the front roller on the Karavan trailer. Should it be in contact with the 170 keel?

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