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Matthew posted 05-13-2004 06:58 PM ET (US)   Profile for Matthew   Send Email to Matthew  
New small cuddy walk around in the Boston Whaler Legend series. www.whaler.com
Matt
dgp posted 05-13-2004 07:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
http://www.whaler.com/rec/default.asp?content=whalernews3&story=5
LHG posted 05-13-2004 07:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
They might be on to something here. A 20' Revenge reborn? Is it built on the Nantucket hull?
Peter posted 05-13-2004 09:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
Looks nice. No space robbing Eurotransom! Must be a scaled up Nantucket hull as it would be quite a stretch to call the 18' 10" Nantucket hull a 20 footer.
Moe posted 05-13-2004 11:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
Anyone have any insider info on this new one? Beam? Draft? Weight? Swamped Capacity? Fuel Capacity?

It's good to see Whaler with a small cuddy filling the gap against the Grady Adventure 208.

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Moe

PMUCCIOLO posted 05-14-2004 03:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
It looks as if Boston Whaler, Grady-White, and Edgewater are producing models similar to the old Bertram 20. http://www.ewboats.com/205ex.htm

I wonder why Boston Whaler chose "205" as the designation? Will "Eastport" be a new line of cuddy's for Whaler? This should be an interesting development. I can't wait to see the real thing.

erik selis posted 05-14-2004 07:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
This is great news! I can't wait to see more info and details about this boat.

Erik

BOB KEMMLER JR posted 05-14-2004 10:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
Well looks like i might have to rethink that Nantucket i was thinking of getting this year.I already showed my wife the pics and she said "I'd help pay for that one",so thats kind of hard to pass up.
andygere posted 05-14-2004 11:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I have been saying for several years that Whaler has given away the 20-24 foot fishing oriented cuddy market to Grady White, Scout, Edgewater, Seaswirl and others. I certainly hope the new Eastport is just the first of a new line of small cuddy cabin boats produced by Whaler. In my area (CA central coast) far and away the most popular style of trailerable fishing boat is the walkaround cuddy. The local Grady/SeaSwirl dealer seems to have captured most of the area market, with the Trophy (Bayliner) dealer a close second. I have had a number of people remark to me (upon seeing my Outrage 22 Cuddy) that they would have bought a new Whaler if they sold a trailerable cuddy. Folks with wives and kids really like the idea of a bit of dry storage space, along with the weather protection that a full windshield and canvas set provide.

I'm guessing the low pricepoint 150 h.p. outboard package will be a weak performer, assuming hull weight and design is on par with other new Whalers of similar size. With the available 200 Opti, she should move out!

Now to see if Whaler is really listening, is the boat ready to accept an auxilliary outboard? Is a high-quality full canvas set avialable? Are there in-floor fish boxes that drain overboard? Will the cockpit self bail?

seasicknes posted 05-14-2004 11:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for seasicknes    
I like the walkarounds alot, but for whaler to discontinue the 21 conquest and the 23 conquest hurts them.
Now, there introducing the 20 eastport.
How long will this be in production ?
Whaler from what i see keeps on changing. Only one boat has pretty much stayed the same (until recently and sort of) and thats the 17.

sportroyalwulf posted 05-14-2004 12:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for sportroyalwulf  Send Email to sportroyalwulf     
Like any good boater I spend considerable amounts of time thinking about my next boat upgrade. I am happy with what I have but like the idea of moving up to the nantucket in a few years. A number of factors contribute to a desire forh a cuddy. I am well set on the idea of nothing but a whaler if I get another boat. I have seen quite a number of older bw cuddy models in use on Lake Michigan and elsewhere. I love the idea of this new 205. Especially if it keeps to the BW vision. Many other brands in this size with a cuddy can not decide if they want to be a pontoon boat, deck boat, or patio lounge. I hope the 205 starts showing up at the boat shows this fall.
TG_190 posted 05-14-2004 01:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for TG_190  Send Email to TG_190     

I like the concept.

Let me speculate on the unkowns.

8' Beam,
90 Gallon tank,
Same hull shape and transom design as the Nantucket.
2350# hull weight
Bimini with enclosure (at leat 3 sides) option for about $3K.
Livewell option
1 cooler.
1 fishox.
swim platform otion,
backing plates in transom for a kicker (just like the Nantucket).

I am betting it will wind up in the upper 40s optioned out w/ a 200 opti.


TG_190

LHG posted 05-14-2004 01:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Peter - I hope you're right that this is indeed a true 20' hull. Maybe they extended the very similar Nantucket hull. But I remember how the 28' Conquest became a "290", the 34' Defiance became a "350" etc.

Anyway, looks nice, and I like the traditional "Eastport" name. I am beginning to think that using these old traditional East Coast names is proving successful once again for BOSTON Whaler.

TDB7117 posted 05-14-2004 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for TDB7117  Send Email to TDB7117     
My guess Is the 205 Newport is a modified 210 Outrage hull. The Outrage is 20'6" long and has a beam of 8'4". It would be nice if they came out with a "Newport" or small Conquest based on the 240 Outrage. The deeper draft and higher freeboard would be very nice offshore. I like the price of that 205 though.
ryanwhaler posted 05-14-2004 07:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for ryanwhaler  Send Email to ryanwhaler     

But, whaler already named a boat "Eastport".
http://web.continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/models.html#eastport
TDB7117 posted 05-14-2004 08:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for TDB7117  Send Email to TDB7117     
I heard a rumor there's a 23' cuddy in the works as well. Has anyone else heard anything about this 23 footer? I hope it's true, that would be the perfect boat for me!
Peter posted 05-14-2004 09:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
Larry, the Nantucket hull is a bit too small too have a usable cabin and a reasonable size cockpit. A couple of low end manufacturers have made 18' 6" walkarounds and the cabins are basically only good for storing fishing rods and gear. They are useless for overnighting. I would think Whaler is smarter than to make that mistake.

The clincher for me is that the news release says its a 20 footer. Its probably built on a modified 210 Outrage hull.

TDB7117 posted 05-18-2004 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for TDB7117  Send Email to TDB7117     
OK, someone out there has to know more about this new 205 Eastport... A short summary and distant picture on the web page doesn't get it. We want to know the deadrise, hope it's at least 20. How high is the freeboard? A minimum of 24" would be really nice. You could also tell us that it has a nice deep draft, say 15" to 18" maybe. Why stop at 200HP when you could offer a 225HP with DTS.

How about a 23 footer... Is it in the works? If so, let it be ready to tackle some seriouse offshore use. i.e. - DEEP V

Jamber posted 05-18-2004 10:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jamber  Send Email to Jamber     
I think I found my next Whaler... My wife and are expecting a baby within two and a half weeks (our first) and as we were out enjoying a beautiful day on our 16 Dauntless this past weekend, we thought it will be nice to have a cuddy one day with the kid(s). We talked/dreamed about it and decided in a year or two we will start looking for 20-something-footer Whaler (I was thinking 21 Walk-Around or Temptation). This new Eastport looks very nice. Can't wait!

-James

jimh posted 05-18-2004 10:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
This new model probably won't be available for boating this season. Look for a fall introduction and delivery.
fno posted 05-19-2004 07:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
I wouldn't count on the Eastport being built on a 210 Outrage hull. Too expensive and heavy. I would guess a stretched Nantucket hull. That means a little less draft, deadrise, and freeboard. Also, if I am right don't expect any in floor fishboxes. I have to admit, I am intrigued as well. I just bought my Outrage 210 and would have gotten the Conquest if I had more money. I am real happy with it, but have been trying to figure out how to rig it for camping/ longer trips. Looks like BW solved that for me a couple of months too late.
Moe posted 05-19-2004 09:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
Looking at that side profile, the cabin looks a bit like a Menemsha. Imagine it with a round porthole.

My concern is that Whaler overemphasized the cockpit for fishing, and the cabin and V-berths are going to be short. The cabin appears shorter than that of the Grady 208 Adventure.

Maybe not, but that's what it looks like to me.

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Moe

TDB7117 posted 05-19-2004 08:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for TDB7117  Send Email to TDB7117     
Yeah that cabin area does look a little small from the picture. I would give up some cockpit space to make the cabin more usable any day.

I don't mind not having the in deck fish boxes but I sure hope it has a deeper draft and higher freeboard than the Nantucket. Some of us would like to go offshore.

Maybe the 23 footer will be better equipt for the bigg stuff.

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