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osillator posted 06-15-2004 12:36 AM ET (US)
I really need to add the rear cleats to my 2002 170.
I bought the first one in this area and I think its the only thing the factory goofed up.
Has any one gotten Whaler to provide cleats for a model that did not have them originally???? I heard a rumor on this thread that it did happen.
I will be glad to install them here if they would provide them.
I am looking for suggestions...thanks in advance.
Knot at Work posted 06-15-2004 10:05 AM ET (US)
I filled out my questionaire on my 2003 170 Montauk
Whaler provided me a rebate check for the cleats and labor so in otherwords they installed them for me
I was Impressed and Whaler earned my loyalty for a lifetime and myabe two generations in my family as my boat will become my sons
BemidjiWhaler posted 06-15-2004 10:17 AM ET (US)
The 2003 Montauk doesn't have rear cleats either. I emailed Whaler and they recommended using the same cleat as the one on the bow, and mount them just behind the rear rail. I can get you the part numbers if you need them, or they can be gotten at www.whalerparts.com. Go to the FAQ section first to download the necessary plug-in to view the drawings.
Also, there is an old thread somewhere on this site that discusses this topic.
sportroyalwulf posted 06-15-2004 03:33 PM ET (US)
The 2004 150 sport has added cleats to the interior of the transom. This is one of the few changes. I don't have pictures. I have installed these newer cleats on my 2003 150 sport. They replace the existing tie downs with a unit containing the cleat on one side and a tie down/tow eye on the exterior. The cleats are of a good size and cost about $70 from whaler. No drilling. They may work on the montauk.
Moe posted 06-15-2004 04:40 PM ET (US)
Is that $70 each or $70/pair?
Anyone else have these cleats you could post a picture of?
--
Moe
sumnerdav posted 06-15-2004 05:06 PM ET (US)
The ones that I purchased from the dealer were about $150 for the pair of oem cleats. Don't know what you would do without them.
Maximus posted 06-15-2004 06:30 PM ET (US)
The 8 inch 'yacht cleat' available from West Marine works very well. Not as robust as the bow cleat but they look like they belong.
They cost much less than $150...maybe $20 including hardware.
Barney posted 06-15-2004 06:52 PM ET (US)
http://myweb.cableone.net/barney9014/images/17/10.jpg This is a Whaler cleat, and I got a check for $61 and change from Whaler to pay toward the pair I installed. JimB
Knot at Work posted 06-15-2004 09:31 PM ET (US)
Barney
same with me Jim, They (Killinger now Marine Max) installed them and then BW called me to ask me about the survey I filled out. They sent me a check reimbursing me for the Cleats, Labor and then some. They did good.
Barney posted 06-15-2004 09:34 PM ET (US)
Knot, You were the first to find this out and alert everyone at the time. I owe you a beer or three. JimB
AQUANUT posted 06-15-2004 09:39 PM ET (US)
I am well aware of the cleats used on the 150/130's.....quite unique...never seen them anywhere else in the industry...I'll post a picture for you tomorrow
barney, JimB
this is the whaler factory installation on the 2004 montauk 170's....note the location..allows for easier step to the dock...

justa whaler rigger.....and lovin it!
Barney posted 06-15-2004 09:50 PM ET (US)
Aquanut, I been over you boat's pictures with a fine tooth comb my friend on several occasions. I saw your 2004's cleats mounted on the inside of the rail a while back. I like that factory installation location better. JimB
Knot at Work posted 06-16-2004 12:05 AM ET (US)
Same with me.
I think they actually added mounting areas in the hull for the 2004 models to be able to take that cleat in that position.
I like it under the rail it allows the area to be used to stepped into etc....
Joe Kriz posted 06-16-2004 12:13 AM ET (US)
Boston Whaler has never made their own Cleats that we know of.
Does anyone know who made these particular Cleats?
In the past, Wilcox Crittendan (sp) and Perko have made many products for Boston Whaler and recently, Wilcox Critteden cleats were passed on and sold to Perko.
Let's try and not guess here but the facts only.
Thanks........
InHerNet posted 06-16-2004 10:27 AM ET (US)
I contacted my dealer and they in turn contacted Whaler about the cleats. Whaler sent the dealer the cleats to install on my 2002. All at no charge! How many other boat manufactures would do this? Not many!
Don
Moe posted 06-16-2004 11:50 AM ET (US)
The problem with the 130/150 cleats on the inside of the stern eyes is that forward-running spring lines are still going to rub on the gelcoat on the top of the gunwale. An aft running spring line from the bow cleat is lifted off the gel coat by the rub rail, so it isn't a problem forward.
Now that I have rod holders mounted fairly low on the side rails, I'll just tie off the aft spring line on the rail, and the stern line from the stern cleats.
--
Moe
RioRaft posted 06-16-2004 03:31 PM ET (US)
Osillator, Boston Whaler provided and installed the cleats on my 2003 170. They match the front cleat exactly, but about 1 inch smaller. Mounted about two inches behind the rear rail mount.
AQUANUT posted 06-16-2004 11:59 PM ET (US)
the cleats on my 2004 montauk 170 are the exact same as some I ordered from Port Supply.....a marine distributer here in the Pacific Northwest.

haven't seen the exact same from Coast [CDI/MDI}
I'll look up a price tomorrow
hardensheetmetal posted 06-17-2004 05:31 PM ET (US)
I am curious if the interior cleats used on the 130/150 are the same as the ones I recently saw on the 110. They take the place of the lifting eye on the interior of the boat, where the ski eye bolts through the transom. If these are the same, they are really trick, very heavily made either stanless or chromed brass. These are especially nice, as they do not reqire any back up plates or screws into the boat.
Dan
mikeyairtime posted 06-17-2004 05:46 PM ET (US)
The 2004 has the cleats inside of the side rails. This location keeps them from snagging, a lesson I (and apparently Whaler) learned through experience. Look at any nice sportfish boat and the cockpit will be cleat/snag free.
BemidjiWhaler posted 06-23-2004 09:24 AM ET (US)
I emailed Boston Whaler last week concerning rear cleats for my 2003 Montauk. I received an email reply today that was extremely satisfactory.
What an incredible company! Also, I would have never known about this without this website. Thanks jimh.
Dave
Maximus posted 06-25-2004 12:35 PM ET (US)
Question:
I purchased a 2003 Boston
Whaler Montauk 170 last
July. I am disappointed
that the boat did not come
with the two stern cleats
that the 2004 model comes
with standard. Can Boston
Whaler provide me with
these cleats? I love the
boat, btw.
Response from Whaler:

I'm afraid the Montauk model was not offered with cleats from 1973-2003.
The 2004 models had the cleats installed as a product enhancement.
I'd recommend contacting your dealer for information on ordering the newer
style cleats for your boat.
According to your zip code, the nearest dealers should be:

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Author	Topic: Cleats for 2002 Montauk 170
osillator	posted 06-15-2004 12:36 AM ET (US) I really need to add the rear cleats to my 2002 170. I bought the first one in this area and I think its the only thing the factory goofed up. Has any one gotten Whaler to provide cleats for a model that did not have them originally???? I heard a rumor on this thread that it did happen. I will be glad to install them here if they would provide them. I am looking for suggestions...thanks in advance.
Knot at Work	posted 06-15-2004 10:05 AM ET (US) I filled out my questionaire on my 2003 170 Montauk Whaler provided me a rebate check for the cleats and labor so in otherwords they installed them for me I was Impressed and Whaler earned my loyalty for a lifetime and myabe two generations in my family as my boat will become my sons
BemidjiWhaler	posted 06-15-2004 10:17 AM ET (US) The 2003 Montauk doesn't have rear cleats either. I emailed Whaler and they recommended using the same cleat as the one on the bow, and mount them just behind the rear rail. I can get you the part numbers if you need them, or they can be gotten at www.whalerparts.com. Go to the FAQ section first to download the necessary plug-in to view the drawings. Also, there is an old thread somewhere on this site that discusses this topic.
sportroyalwulf	posted 06-15-2004 03:33 PM ET (US) The 2004 150 sport has added cleats to the interior of the transom. This is one of the few changes. I don't have pictures. I have installed these newer cleats on my 2003 150 sport. They replace the existing tie downs with a unit containing the cleat on one side and a tie down/tow eye on the exterior. The cleats are of a good size and cost about $70 from whaler. No drilling. They may work on the montauk.
Moe	posted 06-15-2004 04:40 PM ET (US) Is that $70 each or $70/pair? Anyone else have these cleats you could post a picture of? -- Moe
sumnerdav	posted 06-15-2004 05:06 PM ET (US) The ones that I purchased from the dealer were about $150 for the pair of oem cleats. Don't know what you would do without them.
Maximus	posted 06-15-2004 06:30 PM ET (US) The 8 inch 'yacht cleat' available from West Marine works very well. Not as robust as the bow cleat but they look like they belong. They cost much less than $150...maybe $20 including hardware.
Barney	posted 06-15-2004 06:52 PM ET (US) http://myweb.cableone.net/barney9014/images/17/10.jpg This is a Whaler cleat, and I got a check for $61 and change from Whaler to pay toward the pair I installed. JimB
Knot at Work	posted 06-15-2004 09:31 PM ET (US) Barney same with me Jim, They (Killinger now Marine Max) installed them and then BW called me to ask me about the survey I filled out. They sent me a check reimbursing me for the Cleats, Labor and then some. They did good.
Barney	posted 06-15-2004 09:34 PM ET (US) Knot, You were the first to find this out and alert everyone at the time. I owe you a beer or three. JimB
AQUANUT	posted 06-15-2004 09:39 PM ET (US) I am well aware of the cleats used on the 150/130's.....quite unique...never seen them anywhere else in the industry...I'll post a picture for you tomorrow barney, JimB this is the whaler factory installation on the 2004 montauk 170's....note the location..allows for easier step to the dock... justa whaler rigger.....and lovin it!
Barney	posted 06-15-2004 09:50 PM ET (US) Aquanut, I been over you boat's pictures with a fine tooth comb my friend on several occasions. I saw your 2004's cleats mounted on the inside of the rail a while back. I like that factory installation location better. JimB
Knot at Work	posted 06-16-2004 12:05 AM ET (US) Same with me. I think they actually added mounting areas in the hull for the 2004 models to be able to take that cleat in that position. I like it under the rail it allows the area to be used to stepped into etc....
Joe Kriz	posted 06-16-2004 12:13 AM ET (US) Boston Whaler has never made their own Cleats that we know of. Does anyone know who made these particular Cleats? In the past, Wilcox Crittendan (sp) and Perko have made many products for Boston Whaler and recently, Wilcox Critteden cleats were passed on and sold to Perko. Let's try and not guess here but the facts only. Thanks........
InHerNet	posted 06-16-2004 10:27 AM ET (US) I contacted my dealer and they in turn contacted Whaler about the cleats. Whaler sent the dealer the cleats to install on my 2002. All at no charge! How many other boat manufactures would do this? Not many! Don
Moe	posted 06-16-2004 11:50 AM ET (US) The problem with the 130/150 cleats on the inside of the stern eyes is that forward-running spring lines are still going to rub on the gelcoat on the top of the gunwale. An aft running spring line from the bow cleat is lifted off the gel coat by the rub rail, so it isn't a problem forward. Now that I have rod holders mounted fairly low on the side rails, I'll just tie off the aft spring line on the rail, and the stern line from the stern cleats. -- Moe
RioRaft	posted 06-16-2004 03:31 PM ET (US) Osillator, Boston Whaler provided and installed the cleats on my 2003 170. They match the front cleat exactly, but about 1 inch smaller. Mounted about two inches behind the rear rail mount.
AQUANUT	posted 06-16-2004 11:59 PM ET (US) the cleats on my 2004 montauk 170 are the exact same as some I ordered from Port Supply.....a marine distributer here in the Pacific Northwest. haven't seen the exact same from Coast [CDI/MDI} I'll look up a price tomorrow
hardensheetmetal	posted 06-17-2004 05:31 PM ET (US) I am curious if the interior cleats used on the 130/150 are the same as the ones I recently saw on the 110. They take the place of the lifting eye on the interior of the boat, where the ski eye bolts through the transom. If these are the same, they are really trick, very heavily made either stanless or chromed brass. These are especially nice, as they do not reqire any back up plates or screws into the boat. Dan
mikeyairtime	posted 06-17-2004 05:46 PM ET (US) The 2004 has the cleats inside of the side rails. This location keeps them from snagging, a lesson I (and apparently Whaler) learned through experience. Look at any nice sportfish boat and the cockpit will be cleat/snag free.
BemidjiWhaler	posted 06-23-2004 09:24 AM ET (US) I emailed Boston Whaler last week concerning rear cleats for my 2003 Montauk. I received an email reply today that was extremely satisfactory. What an incredible company! Also, I would have never known about this without this website. Thanks jimh. Dave
Maximus	posted 06-25-2004 12:35 PM ET (US) Question: I purchased a 2003 Boston Whaler Montauk 170 last July. I am disappointed that the boat did not come with the two stern cleats that the 2004 model comes with standard. Can Boston Whaler provide me with these cleats? I love the boat, btw. Response from Whaler: I'm afraid the Montauk model was not offered with cleats from 1973-2003. The 2004 models had the cleats installed as a product enhancement. I'd recommend contacting your dealer for information on ordering the newer style cleats for your boat. According to your zip code, the nearest dealers should be: