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panther posted 07-03-2004 11:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for panther  
I'm seriously considering the 210 Outrage for the coastal waters I ply. The Nantucket is nice but the 210 appeals to me more for the obviously better ride in choppy water. I like to fish on snotty days, run out to the crab pots (three miles out) daily, and generally fool around in my boats.

I'm puzzled why there isn't more talk about the 210. Is it a really nice boat, or should I rethink the Nantucket? I'm not rich by any means, but at this stage in my life I can afford either, so money isn't the issue. BTW, I have a 1 ton diesel PU, so that isn't an issue either.

Any thoughts?

fno posted 07-04-2004 02:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
I looked at both also. The Nantucket is more of a bare bones boat for family and fishing. The 210 is also more robust for less than ideal conditions. It also needs more horsepower and truck to tow, but if you can afford both and have some experience boating get the 210. Any more info let me know. By the way I got mine in March so it is a recent buying experience.
kamie posted 07-05-2004 11:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for kamie  Send Email to kamie     
panther,

it's not about rich, it's about getting the right boat to do what you want it to do. There have been lots of threads about the Nantucket but it seems that the owners of the larger Outrages aren't really that vocal. Find a dealer that has both the 190 Nantucket and the 210 and just for grins the 240 and try them in the same snotty weather you want to boat in.

whalerman210 posted 07-05-2004 11:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalerman210  Send Email to whalerman210     
I have an Outrage 210 - a 2002 with an Optimax 175. I have had it for a year and have fished the Gulf, the Atlantic and Lake Erie. I have always felt safe. The only time I've headed in was in six footers in Lake Erie, very closely spaced and I was taking water over the bow. as far as performance mine will cruise at around 30 mph with a full load of gas, full livewell etc. I have the livewell leaning post and a t-top and it is a sweet combination. Many people on the boards would say that at 175 it is underpowered, but I have never had a problem nor does it feel underpowered, it planes quickly and moves fine. It is no speed demon topping at about 42 mph but Whalers are not go-fast boats. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
DaryleB posted 07-06-2004 06:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaryleB  Send Email to DaryleB     
We have a 200 210 Outrage. Rigged with a 225HP Merc fourstroke. We love this boat. Excellent for eveything we do. We fish the SF bay area and outside the Golden gate. The conditions here are less than ideal sometimes. I feel very safe and secure in this boat,not to mention nice dry ride. The motor sips the fuel and very quiet. If you have the means defintely get the 210. I also looked at the nantucket but decided on the outrage because of the larger size and range.
panther posted 07-06-2004 07:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for panther    
Today I took the plunge and bought a new 210 Outrage with the 225 4 stroke. I'm having a Tee-top built from Railmakers with the full Isinglass for colder, wetter weather. I know I'll really like this boat. Hope to have it in the water in a week or so.
fno posted 07-07-2004 12:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
Good luck with the new boat. You will really like that four stroke motor. It's quiet, clean, powerful. Are you getting trim tabs on your bnoat? If so let me know how they work.
panther posted 07-07-2004 01:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for panther    
I'm going to try it without tabs. If it won't plane at slower speeds or lists or rides cockeyed in a cross-sea I'll put them on.

fno posted 07-08-2004 12:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
It'll plane at slower speeds. I think I can get her down to 18 or 20 mph. Maybe less. I'll check tomorow. I'm gonna get them to help keep the bow down in steeper water.
DaryleB posted 07-08-2004 01:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaryleB  Send Email to DaryleB     
Get the trimtabs. It does make a big difference in planing attitude.
HappyTime posted 07-08-2004 04:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for HappyTime  Send Email to HappyTime     
panther,
I suggested you get the trim tabs (get the biggest ones it can fit) and the kicker (at least 15HP) if you
can afford a few more grands. The kicker is a life saver
in an emergency, it keeps you out of the rock or the surf, it can stear to the waves so the boat will not be caught in sideway, it can take you home although slowly, the trim
tabs keep the boat balanced and trim down on rough seas.

HappyTime posted 07-08-2004 04:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for HappyTime  Send Email to HappyTime     
I mean "I suggest",not 'suggested", sorry for the typo.
panther posted 07-08-2004 04:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for panther    
I've got the Yammy 8hp 4 stroke with trim for a kicker. A hold over from another boat.
fno posted 07-09-2004 10:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
I was wrong about the minimum planing speed. I took the boat out today on the river and tried it out with two of us and the dog in the boat, full tank of gas. I got it down to about 23-24 mph at 3400-3500 rpm. This is with a T-top installed, without one I imagine it would do better.
joncoastie posted 07-17-2004 12:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for joncoastie  Send Email to joncoastie     
I have a 200 HP 2 stroke and no t-top. My minimum speed on plane is 2800RPM. Hey 210 owners, I'm curious to know if you open the access port under your feet at the helm if you can access your fuel sending unit. I can not on mine and need to change it. In order to do so, it looks like I must pull up the entire deck. What a poor design!
fno posted 07-18-2004 10:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
There is another access plate in the console, I think. That's probably where it is.


joncoastie posted 07-19-2004 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for joncoastie  Send Email to joncoastie     
Unfortunately, I have found the sending unit and it is aft of the access at the helm and the deck sits too low to the tank to allow removal. The access at the helm serves absolutely no purpose on my boat. The only thing that I can think of is the tank may have inadvertantly been placed further aft than normal and perhaps the sending unit is "normally" accessed through that port. That's why I ask other 210 owners if they can access the sending unit through it. Thanks
fno posted 07-19-2004 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
I take it your name is Jon. I'll call you that till you correct me. Anyway, I wil take a look for real tomorow. i ogt in last night but the console door was locked and I was too lazy to climb back down and get the key out of the truck.
joncoastie posted 07-19-2004 08:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for joncoastie  Send Email to joncoastie     
Hey Thanks! Thare are no other 210's around here andI just want to satisfy my curiosity before I take up my whole deck for a sending unit!
fno posted 07-21-2004 09:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
Jon, I looked last night and under the access port between the console and the leaning post is where the sending unit and the capacity label are. I could remove the sending unit if needed. How old is your boat? You might want to lean on the dealer/Boston Whaler to do the job as they scrwewed it up in the first place. I've looked pulling my deck to install a fresh water tank. It's a big job!! Even if I could get away with not removing the T top.
b h willey posted 07-24-2004 12:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for b h willey  Send Email to b h willey     
I have a 98 21 outrage and have access to my sending unit
like the other fellow
joncoastie posted 07-24-2004 09:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for joncoastie  Send Email to joncoastie     
Thanks Guys, I greatly appreciate your input. My boat is a 2002. I will call Whaler direct on Monday and try to get the ball rolling on this. I'm relatively confident that all 210' have the access ports in the exact same spot. Therefore, for some unknown reason, my fuel tank must be too far aft by about 6 inches. I'll keep you posted.
Jon
joncoastie posted 08-01-2004 08:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for joncoastie  Send Email to joncoastie     
I spoke with the Whaler rep the other day and he confirmed my suspicion. The tank in my boat is too far aft, therefore the sending unit is not reachable without pulling the deck up. He also advised against repositioning the tank. Since the 2002, they have repositioned the tanks to the proper position. This does not sit well with me. If I wanted Bayliner quality I would have bought a Bayliner! I attempted to contact teh Warranty Dept at the Factory last week but my call was not returned. I will keep you informed about my progress.
fno posted 08-02-2004 08:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
Jon, you are going to have to get your dealer involved in this also. They are usually the one's that go to bat with the factory down here in FL.
panther posted 08-02-2004 12:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for panther    
Odd, when one buys a Mercedes, one expects superior service if needed. Guess Mercedes is a misnomer these days... perhaps Chevy.
jimh posted 08-02-2004 08:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The Boston Whaler factory in Edgewater was on a summer shut down recently, so perhaps this will explain the delay in contacting them.

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