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whalemate posted 07-29-2004 05:05 PM ET (US)   Profile for whalemate   Send Email to whalemate  
Check out the ( what must be the ) 05 Whaler website. www.whaler.com. Just got on today and see new pictures of the 180 Dauntless. Along with the 220 Dauntless with the Merc 225XL Verado fourstroke engine now available. Also the new 220 Eastport is listed, and than the suprise to ME......The 235 Conquest. A beauty. Did everyone know whaler had this one coming down the tubes except me?
David Pendleton posted 07-29-2004 05:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
I hadn't seen it yet.

I wondered how long it would take them to bring back the 23 Conquest...

Dave

WT posted 07-29-2004 06:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
My wife is going to be upset when I get two footitis. 205 Eastport and 235 Conquest both look sweet. I wish they had more pictures on the site.

WT

kamie posted 07-29-2004 06:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for kamie  Send Email to kamie     
makes sense that they would round out the conquest line. I was a little unhappy to see they don't offer a pair of 250 HP Verado's on the 270. The pictures are nice and it seems they are offering electronics to round out the total package.
Peter posted 07-29-2004 10:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
Wow, the 235 Conquest appears to have some nice lines and a decent sized cockpit. No Euro transom. Hooray! Now if they only gave the consumer a choice on power they'd really have something. That boat sure would look nice with a compact white E-TEC 250 on the transom.

Too bad the helm is not an "ergonomic triumph" as the marketing folks put it. The side mounted throttle control is very Mercruiserish. Better ergonomics would have the throttle control on substantially the same plane as the steering wheel much like it is on the classic center console Outrage and Revenge, or any of the Grady White or Pursuit boats. I've driven boats with the side mounted controls like that in some rough seas and I find the positioning to be very uncomfortable over time.

The helm on the new 205 Eastport also receives low marks for the same reason. Compare it to the helm on the Grady White Adventure 208 and you'll see what I mean about the throttle control being on substantially the same plane as the wheel.

Sal A posted 07-30-2004 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
I also noticed that they brought back the 160 Dauntless...
jimh posted 08-01-2004 11:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I was surprised that the side-mounted control was also part of the DTS option.

The top-mounted shift/throttle control is a "classic".

Moe posted 08-01-2004 01:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
Looks like the trailers now come with LED lights...

Peter posted 08-01-2004 08:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
I noticed that for all the boats that have a Verado option, the maximum transom weight has been raised to something conveniently above the weight of the Verado or Verado pair. Comparing to the specifications in the 2004 catalog, the transom weight limit for the 210 Outrage has been raised from 610 to 700 lbs and the 320 Outrage's from 1220 lbs to 1400 lbs. Yet, all other specifications appear to be the same.

One of the things that I noticed that some other boat manfacturers had done as the large 4-strokes came to market was to fill in the step on models that had a built-in bracket so that the vee carried all the way to the transom instead of stopping a few feet short of the transom. By filling this region in there was not only extra bouyancy but it shifted the center of bouyancy for the boat forward and that helped to support the extra weight of the 4-strokes.

However, I don't recall that any of the 2004 Whaler hulls had a bracket type hull configuration at the stern that could be filled in so to speak. So what have they done to increase the maximum transom weight limits, shift weight forward?

kamie posted 08-01-2004 10:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for kamie  Send Email to kamie     
It could be they have done nothing and as long suspected the transoms are built to handle heaver motors than they are rated for?

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