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mm posted 08-09-2004 05:16 PM ET (US)
I am looking at a 21 Outrage 1994. Has anyone had experience powering such a boat with a single 2003 140 four stroke. I am not looking for blazing speeds (and I already own the motor off another boat). Thanks.
tully_mars posted 08-10-2004 09:49 PM ET (US)
I had a 1996 Outrage 21 which is the exact same boat you are looking at. I am sorry but a 140hp motor would not be near enough power to run that boat. Mine was powered with a 225hp and with a full load of folks it didn't always plane the fastest.
Actually, I think 135hp is the minimum hp to plane with this hull, so a 140 would not be a good fit for the boat.
However, the 21 Outrage is rated for 300hp and can be rigged for twins. So a sister 140hp Suzuki would make this one great running machine. The boat has a 122 gallon fuel tank which with twin 140's would give you a fishing range unparalleled.
Capt. Tully Mars
tully_mars posted 08-10-2004 09:50 PM ET (US)
Oh, btw, the boat was a great boat. The fish boxes work well, and it is a very dry riding boat. No regrets on it from me other than I had an OceanBlo 225 Evinrude on it.
Capt. Tully Mars
outrage 93 posted 08-12-2004 02:26 PM ET (US)
I have a 21 1993 Outrage also with the Ocean Blo 175 that thank god blew up and forced me into getting the 2003 225 Optimax. I told my wife I had no choice! I used to run at 24/25 knots now I am at 30 knots and 8 gallons an hour!Alos the engine is quiet! Go for the gusto! I should have gotten the 250!
mm posted 08-13-2004 11:01 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the responses.
laxbill posted 08-17-2004 01:22 AM ET (US)
I have a '94 21' Outrage with a 2000 Johnson OP 250. It jumps up on plane in a few seconds. Top speed with 3/4 gas tank is 50+ @ 5500 rpm. Cruises @ 30+ @ 3800 rpm
Love the boat!
Bill
Backlash posted 08-20-2004 09:09 AM ET (US)
mm,
The 1994 21' Outrage is rated for a minimum horsepower of 150, maximum of 300. With a 140 4-stroke this hull would take literally forever to plane. Keep in mind that these post-classics have a much deeper "V" than the classics and consequently require more horsepower to get/stay on plane. Also, with a 140 on this boat you are going to be operating in the upper rpm ranges when cruising leading to increased engine wear and reduced fuel economy. I am a firm believer in maxing out Whalers (horespower-wise) and believe this is especially true for the post-classics for good performance.
My 1991 21' Walkaround is basically the same hull as the 21' Outrage and the published hull weights are within 100# of each other. I have a 200 HP Yamaha (wish I had gotten the 250) on my 21 and get good performance and low 40's at WOT. I can't imagine my boat with a 140 on it.
Steve
jimh posted 08-21-2004 09:27 AM ET (US)
I believe that the only 140-HP 4-stroke engine being made is the Suzuki. This engine is a hot-rod version of their 90-HP and 115-HP engines. The displacement is only 2.0-liter.
In contrast, most 150-HP outboards are V-6 engines with at least 2.5-liter displacement, and they are usually the tuned-down versions of a 200-HP or 175-HP model.

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Author	Topic: Power for 1994 OUTRAGE 21
mm	posted 08-09-2004 05:16 PM ET (US) I am looking at a 21 Outrage 1994. Has anyone had experience powering such a boat with a single 2003 140 four stroke. I am not looking for blazing speeds (and I already own the motor off another boat). Thanks.
tully_mars	posted 08-10-2004 09:49 PM ET (US) I had a 1996 Outrage 21 which is the exact same boat you are looking at. I am sorry but a 140hp motor would not be near enough power to run that boat. Mine was powered with a 225hp and with a full load of folks it didn't always plane the fastest. Actually, I think 135hp is the minimum hp to plane with this hull, so a 140 would not be a good fit for the boat. However, the 21 Outrage is rated for 300hp and can be rigged for twins. So a sister 140hp Suzuki would make this one great running machine. The boat has a 122 gallon fuel tank which with twin 140's would give you a fishing range unparalleled. Capt. Tully Mars
tully_mars	posted 08-10-2004 09:50 PM ET (US) Oh, btw, the boat was a great boat. The fish boxes work well, and it is a very dry riding boat. No regrets on it from me other than I had an OceanBlo 225 Evinrude on it. Capt. Tully Mars
outrage 93	posted 08-12-2004 02:26 PM ET (US) I have a 21 1993 Outrage also with the Ocean Blo 175 that thank god blew up and forced me into getting the 2003 225 Optimax. I told my wife I had no choice! I used to run at 24/25 knots now I am at 30 knots and 8 gallons an hour!Alos the engine is quiet! Go for the gusto! I should have gotten the 250!
mm	posted 08-13-2004 11:01 AM ET (US) Thanks for the responses.
laxbill	posted 08-17-2004 01:22 AM ET (US) I have a '94 21' Outrage with a 2000 Johnson OP 250. It jumps up on plane in a few seconds. Top speed with 3/4 gas tank is 50+ @ 5500 rpm. Cruises @ 30+ @ 3800 rpm Love the boat! Bill
Backlash	posted 08-20-2004 09:09 AM ET (US) mm, The 1994 21' Outrage is rated for a minimum horsepower of 150, maximum of 300. With a 140 4-stroke this hull would take literally forever to plane. Keep in mind that these post-classics have a much deeper "V" than the classics and consequently require more horsepower to get/stay on plane. Also, with a 140 on this boat you are going to be operating in the upper rpm ranges when cruising leading to increased engine wear and reduced fuel economy. I am a firm believer in maxing out Whalers (horespower-wise) and believe this is especially true for the post-classics for good performance. My 1991 21' Walkaround is basically the same hull as the 21' Outrage and the published hull weights are within 100# of each other. I have a 200 HP Yamaha (wish I had gotten the 250) on my 21 and get good performance and low 40's at WOT. I can't imagine my boat with a 140 on it. Steve
jimh	posted 08-21-2004 09:27 AM ET (US) I believe that the only 140-HP 4-stroke engine being made is the Suzuki. This engine is a hot-rod version of their 90-HP and 115-HP engines. The displacement is only 2.0-liter. In contrast, most 150-HP outboards are V-6 engines with at least 2.5-liter displacement, and they are usually the tuned-down versions of a 200-HP or 175-HP model.