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Moving on up (to 320 OUTRAGE)
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posted 08-24-2004 11:54 AM ET (US)
The Saltwater fishing bug has bit me bad, and the desire to roam even farther offshore into bluer waters is getting stronger. After 10 years, it is getting worse instead of better. So, I've put my Conquest 23 up for sale in the market place forum on this site: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/006995.html.
If anyone has fist hand experience fishing the new 32, I'd like to hear about your experiences. How does she troll, are the wakes clean? What about drifting attitude and roll stability? Would like to hear of any first hand impressions, or any references for magazine test reports. Thanks, BillS
posted 08-24-2004 12:32 PM ET (US)
there was a gent on here several months ago
whose father was accepting delivery of a 320 Outrage
with Verados on the back.
Not a regular poster, so you may have to search archives.
Coincidentally, I believe he was in Texas also,
posted 08-24-2004 05:59 PM ET (US)
I am in the same situation you are in. Are you looking at the outrage or the conquest? The performance figures on the whaler website are very interesting
posted 08-27-2004 10:17 AM ET (US)
We purchased a 305 Conquest in June and fished it in the Sea of Cortez for seven trips before the heat and humidity drove us north.
Like you, we traded a 23 Conquest for the big Whaler.
Our impressions are as follows:
1. With 4-stroke EFI's, the boat as extremely quiet at all speeds.
2. Top speeds and rpm's correlated amazingly close to the 23 Conquest with a single 225 Optimax.
3. Fuel econonomy was a little greater than half that of the Conquest. There is a 4-stroke savings in oil and cheaper sparkplugs.
4. The boat doesn't ride like any other Whaler. It is most efficient trimmed all the way in, pushing the entire hull in the water. Unlike the 23 Conquest, it excells going into headseas. The boat runs flat without trim tabs and is not sensitive to passengers moving about.
5. It has an efficient hull and will hold a plane between 14 and 15 knots.
6. It is wetter than the 23 Conquest. All of that big hull is in the water and spray is blown into the cockpit. It will handle big seas safely and comfortably, but weather curtains are needed.
7. That 10' 7'' hull means both flat lines run in clean, blue water not in the prop wash.
8. Most of the extra room went into the cockpit, making the boat a delight to fish.
9. It spins, backs down and handles great, using only the clutches. With auto pilot, landing a small marlin, any sailfish or dorado is a snap, with only two persons aboard.
10. Docking the boat is easier than the 23 Conquest. See number 9.
We have no experience with the 320 Outrage. Hopes this helps.
posted 08-31-2004 09:23 AM ET (US)
Here is an interesting account of offshore fishing from a 320 OUTRAGE. I think this classifies as "extreme fishing."
posted 08-31-2004 09:43 AM ET (US)
Jim, after reading that article a bad case of daydreaming has settled in again...and I still have a couple of hours work ahead of me.
posted 08-31-2004 11:10 AM ET (US)
Great article! It takes me back to fishing the Caribbean in my cousin's boat (though only 25 miles offshore and not on a Whaler). I can almost taste the salt spray! Lately, I've caught myself dreaming of a bigger boat all too often. Could it be I've caught a case of tow-footitis?! Oh no!
Well, for my now I'm sitting in my office and my Montauk sits outside my window behind my truck loaded with two kayaks ready for an afternoon’s adventure.
I've got to take advantage of the window between hurricanes. It looks like it’s going to be a nasty hurricane season!
If only I could get some work done instead of looking out the window and grinning like an idiot. Unlike Erik, I still have more than four hours left. Oh, how I wish I were on UTC! ;-)
posted 09-01-2004 01:00 AM ET (US)
I'm the guy from Texas. San Antonio/Port Aransas. Where in Texas are you Bill? Actually my dad took delivery of the 320 with 250xs Optimaxi's in February. I think it was TrafficLawyer or another poster who was waiting for the 320 with 250 Verado's. Yes, I ocassionally visit the site and just happen to have fished the 320 this past Saturday. The boat is a dream. GET IT! You will be VERY happy with the way it handles and fishes. It trolls very smoothly and the wake seems very good. I'm not an expert troller or saltwater fisherman, but the more experiencied guy with us was impressed. We pulled some Hooties, Russell lures & ribbon fish for Kings about 22 miles out around some of the rigs. We then drifed through a pair of rigs for about an hour, going back around and around. Picked up a few keeper Snapper, Grouper and Jackfish I believe in about 118 feet of water. No luck with with anything trolling. The drifting attitude and roll stability are perfect. It steers just as good or better than the 2001 26' Outrage. We feel alot more stable walking around out there than we did in the 26'. The baitwell/sink layout is perfect. It keeps the stearn clean having everything behind the helm. In the 26, the livewell was in the back. Seas were about 2-4 feet but we did hit rain on the way out. Having that nice big hardtop up there is a plus in the rain and the Texas sun that heated up quick after the rain. It calmed down a little more and turned out to be a beautiful day. The ride out and back was just so soothing in this boat. You just want to keep driving it!!(We did not get the movable floor). You can't stop smiling. Also, after getting back into the jetties, on smooth water, trimed up, with 100 gallons of gas left, I was able to run 50.1 on both the speedo and WAAS GPS. Remember, this is a big heavy boat, but it does get up on plane quick and run good. Another note, those Merc's ran non-stop for about 3 hours without skipping a beat before we shut them down on a couple of the drifts. They are a little bit louder than the 200 Opti's overall at all speeds. Also, the boat is a monster to trailer. This one is keep on a lift under cover. A permit is needed to travel with it on the highway. If you have any more specific questions, I will be glad to answer anything you can think of. Also, if you're close to Port A, a demo/test ride could possibly be set up. It's a step up going from the 23 to the 32, but you will have no problem. Alot of times, we just go out to take all the kids to see the dolphins in the Intercoastal. Awhile back from what the dealer said, there's only been 4 320's sold in Texas, two from SA and a couple from Houston. Love to hear from you.
posted 09-01-2004 08:23 AM ET (US)
Tip of the hat to sportroyalwulf who found that great article on the 320 fishing trip and posted it to another thread.
posted 09-01-2004 08:31 AM ET (US)
Have you looked at the engine selections for the new 320 outrage? I am getting mixed reviews on the opti vs verado comparison. Does anyone know of a 320 owner installing a second helm station on the hard top. Is this installation possible with the verados?
posted 09-01-2004 04:17 PM ET (US)
Thanks all for the responses and articles.
KenV, I'm in Port O'connor, just up the road from Port Aransas. I would like to take you up on a chance to see the boat up close, I need to talk to my chief first and see what is a good weekend for her before i get back to you. Just curious, what does a covered slip with lift go for in Port A? In Port O, I'm looking at $300/month.
posted 09-02-2004 12:43 AM ET (US)
That sounds good. Just post on here when you think you can get a free day to meet in Port A. We've got some trips planned in Sept/Oct, but are always looking for a reason to go take the boat out! Both myself and parents live in San Antonio, but go down when we can. I've got a three year old that keeps my schedule busy but she loves the beach and the boat. She thinks the dolphins come to the surface to say hi to her. As far as the covered lift prices, $300 to 350 a month is about average. Where my dad keeps it, it depends on the lift capacity, 7,000, 10,000, 12,000, 15,000 and the size of the boat for the rate. He has it on a new 15,000 pound lift that he actually purchased for the 320. The biggest they had available was a 10,000 lb. He couldn't keep the same lift that the 26 was on because it was a rag tag assembly of parts from a 7500 lb and a 10,000 lb. lift. I'm not sure actually what he is paying because he cut a deal with the marina since he purchased the lift and pre-paid for half the year. I'd have to get the breakdown, but I know for the 26 he was paying $300. Just post back and we can trade email addresses if that is easier to stay in touch.
posted 09-08-2004 09:39 PM ET (US)
Has anybody tested the 320 with the shock absorber deck vs the fixed deck? Curious to see if it is worth the extra 18K
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