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Scobey Drive posted 01-17-2005 05:31 PM ET (US)   Profile for Scobey Drive   Send Email to Scobey Drive  
I may receive an assignment to Europe. I'd like to (???) ship my 170 Montauk over in a ConEx Shipping container. Has anyone done such a thing? Any suggestions? The standard containers are eight feet wide, and the montauk is a little over six feet wide. I think it could be shipped, blocked on its trailer . . . but . . .

As an aside to this question -- maybe a separate post, later, I wonder what type of registration and importation questions would have to be answered. There are sometimes separate rules for servicemembers on assignment, so I'd like to hear from folks who've had this experience.

I imagine it's possible to cross much of Europe on the rivers and canals . . .

witsendfl posted 01-17-2005 09:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for witsendfl  Send Email to witsendfl     
I have had shippers take care of loading and unloading.
A container is one great way. A less expensive way is to SHRINK WRAP the boat/motor for shipment. Depending where you are going overseas you may find that the trailer does not meet overseas requirements. Boat and motor would but not the trailer. Somekind of liason should be able to aquire that info for you before you go.

Thanks for serving and good luck. I think that many Whaler Lovers from the good old USA would really appreciate your overseas Whaling Stories

witsendfl JimK

bigjohn1 posted 01-18-2005 08:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigjohn1  Send Email to bigjohn1     
Scobey, I just took delivery of an '05 Montauk 3 months ago here in Guam and it arrived already sitting on its trailer and comfortably inside a 20ft Milvan container. Although my local Whaler dealer arranged the shipping through his freight forwarding agent in Oakland, I saw how it was squeezed in there when they cracked open the doors after customs had cleared it at the port. When you add up the length of a 170 plus the trailer length, you come up with more than 20ft. The packers got around this by lifting up the trailer tongue almost all the way to the ceiling and resting it on a custom fabricated wooden lading system.

IMHO, here are your two best options given your personal situation:

1. Check with your Base Traffic Management Office about getting your boat on an Opportune Lift (OPLIFT). Basically, when there is space available on a Navy Combat Logistics ship headed to Europe, they will put your boat on it and it will be shipped for free. The drawback is you never know how long it will take to get over there, could be 3 months or even up to a year!! Also, there is no guarantee it will arrive damage-free. Sure, you can file a claim for damage but you'll be in a foreign country and even when they pay your claim, are you going to be able to easily get it repaired

2. This is going to cost you dearly but is much safer. Call any of the numerous Freight Forwarding companies at the nearest major U.S. port of debarkation. You can arrange to deliver your boat to their office and basically, they will pack it and ship it with a guaranteed arrival date (weather permitting) to the nearest European port they service. They will likely have a forwarding agent at the arrival city that will take care of un-packing it for you. I'm not sure about Europe but Matson Navigation (for example) will ship 20ft containers from Oakland-to-Guam for about $3,800. They allow up to a certain weight and then tack on extra if you exceed it.

You have one heck of alot of checking to do prior to pulling this off. Check if there are any vehicle exclusions/exceptions in the SOFA Agreement with your host country - your TMO has a big book with all of this info. If they say they don't, talk to someone higher up as they're feeding you a line. In my former life when I was active duty, I never encountered a country that didn't
have some sort of special proviso so that you could drive/pull/haul your vehicle (car, truck, trailer) at least from the port to your residence when it initially arrived. On your concern about trailer regs in Europe, again - TMO will have to look that up for the specific country you will be in.

You have a MUCH better chance of it arriving un-damaged if you pay and arrange shipment yourself. Sure, the price tag is steep but not many can say they have been Whalering in Europe with their own privately owned boat - go for it!
Big John

HuronBob posted 01-18-2005 08:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for HuronBob    
this is a 21 footer, but you might want to look at this anyway...

erik selis posted 01-18-2005 09:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Scobey Drive,

I live in Belgium and I often go boating with my 170 Montauk in Holland, Belgium and Spain. Feel free to e-mail me with any questions concerning rules, regulations and licenses for European waters and highways. I would be glad to help you out if I can. I can also bring you in touch with the European Boston Whaler Club. I'm sure they're also willing to help out.


Scobey Drive posted 01-20-2005 08:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scobey Drive  Send Email to Scobey Drive     
Thank you very much for the ideas and information! This is certainly enough to get me started.

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